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NEK: Mom always said when the Doctor smiles at you it’s always a good thing. I think this is that one exception…

  • 06/24/2016 at 2:09am

    I hate those jerks!

  • Grids

    06/18/2016 at 8:28pm

    Gonna say this here. You all, as readers, deserve to know this.

    I’ve spoken to Numa directly about the Jewel situation in GT. As you can imagine when I first saw the page, I wasn’t happy. Nonetheless I saw opportunities for him to make Jewel something unique so long as he maintained control of her. But it turns out, in order for her to appear, he turned over his creative right to Bleedman. That’s right – Numa no longer owns Jewel. Nevertheless I told him to fight. To stand up for her and defend her and prevent her from becoming GT’s latest failed punchline.
    But he won’t. Claims it’s too stressful. Values his personal connection with Bleed too highly over the morals of preserving his character.
    Then he told me this on Skype –
    “Bleed said she has a very important role that is more than a cameo.
    To show what kind of a badass she truly can be.
    She is a interesting addition to the story that will push it through as a whole.
    He has plans that will be shown cause he was working on everything all the way toward the end and if I had her just as a cameo it would mean he will have to start all over again.”
    Can ANYONE make sense of this? I fear that this is going to get very bad, very quickly…
    There are characters Bleed (and I) helped establish over the years who will be completely neglected because apparently this out-of-the-blue character is meant to be the key to bringing the story to fruition. She’s in a goddamn maid outfit.
    Fans of Grim Tales, this is a dark time. I wish there was more that I and others could do to stop this.

    • Aros001

      06/19/2016 at 4:20am

      Well, he said very important role, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that she’ll be overshadowing the main characters. If she’s there to help push the story forward, which is what we all want, then this could be a good thing, so long as it’s handled well.

      • athdlg

        06/19/2016 at 4:53am

        Positivism is refreshing around here. Good on ya’.

    • Lolwutpear_126

      06/19/2016 at 12:50pm

      I can only laugh at this. How many people are there actually licking Bleed’s ass? Personal connection? Just to get his porn shit drawn for him or what? Such bullshit. I’d never have a character of mine being prostituted over some ‘connection’ to some artist. There are tons of good artists on DeviantArt. Bleed’s just one of them. I’ve seen tons of better fan-created comics with more coherent plots and storylines. And I still don’t understand how Jewel is going to take a position in this comic. Again, it doesn’t make any sense. What the effin’ fuck, man. This is getting worse than the cartoons shown on CartoonNetwork nowadays. Also: fuck positivism. Such bull won’t get you anywhere nowadays, except for getting trampled over by selfish buttholes.

      • athdlg

        06/19/2016 at 1:13pm

        Dang, so negative.

      • Grids

        06/19/2016 at 2:46pm

        Is positivism a mixture of positivity and activism? Sounds like a religion! 😛

        • nomfish

          06/19/2016 at 4:09pm

          At this point, i just want to see a well made comic. And one that’s hopefully finished before bleed ages to a point of no return.
          Just curios, is Chi Blossom and Aku’s daughter? I wouldn’t be surprised.

          • athdlg

            06/19/2016 at 5:01pm

            No one knows, man. Could be anything at this point. People are currently speculating that Chi isn’t necessarily Blossom’s daughter but a reincarnation of Blossom because of Chi presumably seeing the last thing before Blossom died. The theory sticks pretty well.

          • nomfish

            06/19/2016 at 6:06pm

            It does, but isnt that incest?

          • Aros001

            06/19/2016 at 8:56pm

            Kind of a grey area on that one, honestly. Blossom being Mimi’s mother, definitely incest. But Chi being her reincarnation with a completely different personality and biology, technically not incest. Again, grey area, but it does raise some interesting ideas and would explain why Chi is so obsessed with her. The parental love she had in her past life being mistaken for romantic love in her next. Plus it would tie her in better to the overall story than by her just being Mimi’s girlfriend.

          • athdlg

            06/19/2016 at 10:31pm

            Even if it was incest….who cares anymore? Really. Minnie loves Jr. Jr. has the hots for Minnie. Ginger loves a gingerbread man and it goes the other way around as well. The gingerbread man also has feelings for the sheep. It’s almost to be expected at this point.

          • Grids

            06/20/2016 at 2:01am

            Since Bleed is pretty much running his own story in GT right now (see impulsive inclusion of a random friend’s OC and trying to instantly legitimize it), I wouldn’t count out ANY possibility, despite the depravity of it all.

          • athdlg

            06/20/2016 at 11:10am

            Who knows. Maybe he had several ideas, Jewel being one of those ideas but he didn’t want to put her in until he had full control of the artistic possibilities.

          • nomfish

            06/20/2016 at 7:58pm

            Idk, i never liked the incest and pedophilia undertones. So bleed having full control makes me nervous.

          • Lolwutpear_126

            06/20/2016 at 10:47pm

            @Nomfish: people have lots of weird fetishes nowadays. And of course they gotta fill the internet with their shit for other people to see even though these people absolutely didn’t ask for anything of it. Leave kids alone. Their innocence is already being torn apart sooner and sooner nowadays.

          • athdlg

            06/21/2016 at 1:25am

            Welcome to Bleed’s comics.

          • nomfish

            06/21/2016 at 6:17am

            lol yeah, i know. Doesn’t really justify it tho.. :<

          • Lolwutpear_126

            06/21/2016 at 4:46pm

            Oh yeah, forgot to welcome you to the site, Nomfish.

          • boomerlover8

            06/22/2016 at 4:25pm

            No one welcomed me to this site when I first came here

      • nomfish

        06/21/2016 at 5:16pm

        thanks 🙂

        • Lolwutpear_126

          06/22/2016 at 4:04pm

          I may bark, but I (usually) don’t bite. :V

          • boomerlover8

            06/22/2016 at 4:25pm

            That’s a lie

          • Lolwutpear_126

            06/23/2016 at 4:33pm

            @Boomerlover8: You are a lie.

          • boomerlover8

            06/24/2016 at 2:53am

            One of the worst combacks I ever herd,but you may be right about that…

  • red bear

    06/18/2016 at 9:53am

    OK, that evil psychiatrist Matrix/cyberpunk trick was really creepy. Not to mention that some of his sayings looks close to improper. If it was the intended effect, then good, you’ve got me, I’m getting “this is nightmare” vibes pretty clear.

  • STAR01

    06/17/2016 at 12:02pm

    What is the family secret? Candyhope?

    And another one. Who is ginger`s father?

    Is there a person who knows?

    • STAR01

      06/17/2016 at 12:12pm

      I`m sorry. A spelling mistake was done.


  • Drunkefox

    06/16/2016 at 6:44pm

    i..have no freaking idea whats happening on this one anymore…there has been so much talking and exposition on the last few pages that i got overwhelmed, lost, and somewhat bored, specially during the pizza dinner pages

    • Grids

      06/16/2016 at 11:10pm

      I believe that if someone else took over GT then NEK would be able to focus entirely on SB and develop actual plot coherence. Jumping around between comics makes the overall product lesser. SB could be good again if a more direct focus was applied.

      • Aros001

        06/17/2016 at 3:09am

        Hey, Griddles, sorry to bother you, but I wanted to know what your opinion on the Afterbirth story was, considering you and Bleedman are credited for writing it together.

        • Grids

          06/17/2016 at 3:23am

          Okay, so Afterbirth was meant to be a promotional thing for SnafuDave to sell at conventions in order to generate hype for GT and the site in general. He wanted a brief story that could be sold in booklet form, and that’s where the idea took off. However, what we planned out ended up being too big to condense into a book so we decided to make it a standalone comic that pages and promo material could be distributed for. The whole lot would then be made available through Shark Robot, which at the time was fairly new and needed some visibility on the convention circuit.
          HOWEVER the main problem, besides the rather condensed and spoilerific plot, was getting the permissions from various studios (Disney, CN etc) to profit from their characters. This was something Dave assured Bleed and I he’d take care of while we focused on making said story.
          He didn’t come through.

          So we were left with a completed comic that got shared amongst the then five-strong writing cast (Bleed, Myself, BeeAre, Seiryuga and DMajorboss) and somewhere along the line it got leaked onto the internet. Its chances of being sold at conventions had by that stage evaporated, so I guess there was no real alternative than to make it available for free and consider the plot thereof non-canon.

          Now then, for those wondering, if I had remained on the team elements of AB WOULD have made their way into the story, such as the ghost twins and an older set of cast members. It seems a variation of Minnie’s outfit from that comic is now being worn. However, in the past, new ultra-supa-genius senpai NEK has vowed to kill off both Mimi (a central figure to GT in general) and the ghost twins (who, like all of Mandy’s other children, are technically already dead/undead anyway). So those plans are jeopardised at this stage.
          I had big plans for the ghosties (the Wight Knights) going forward. They were even going to be crucial in this whole war thing going on. That’s all at risk now, but if a change of some sort were made to the production team, then it’s certainly not too late….

          As a story, Afterbirth was a needless mess, but a good bit of experimenting to be had. It featured two of my original characters (Drax and Empheles), taking my total OC’s featured in storylines up to three so far (Mindsnare is also mine, though not the bastardised version who appears here, sadly) and if you count April Fools gags and background cameos, my total is seven. So I did okay for myself…

          • Arrakiz

            06/17/2016 at 6:59am

            Well, you know, at least this discussion is being had? Like, NEK and Bleed have to react to the general outcry don’t they?

          • athdlg

            06/17/2016 at 8:03am

            They don’t have to react to anything. They haven’t for a while, expecting them to react is laughable; however, hope is a thing.

          • Grids

            06/17/2016 at 8:14am

            The reason Bleed is so frustrating and NEK is so immensely disrespected is because they do not engage with the readerbase. I honestly believe Bleed isn’t trying anymore with most of his comics – he has enough patreon and commission money to die a rich man. NEK is a paper editor – from what I’ve gleaned the guy does not have a good grasp of English and is simply there to nod at every decision Bleed makes, and come up with a stupid and often recycled page title (like this one, a variant of an original-arc SB page) and dumb comment to go with it.

            BeeAre however regularly talks to readers, urges them to think and discuss and actually has control over what he is doing, which is what makes PPGD the far superior comic that it is. Of course, once BeeAre’s time is done and Bleed feels like acting on whimsy, PPGD will also sink to the lows that GT and SB already have. So enjoy it while you can, dudes.

            in short, no, they don’t have to respond. If Bleed respected his comics a bit more, maybe he would at least take what’s being said on board. And he’d hire an editor who didn’t make an absolute mockery of the job position.

          • nomfish

            06/17/2016 at 1:29pm

            I really hope you can somehow make it back as a writer. Its really upsetting hearing Mimi might be killed off. And Your plots actually go places instead of beat around the bush.
            I vote for Grids (if ever there was an election)
            You have my full support.

          • Grids

            06/17/2016 at 1:53pm

            I appreciate that 🙂

          • Aros001

            06/17/2016 at 2:16pm

            Alright. Thank you for the info. I’ve read Afterbirth and I quite liked most of it (though I didn’t realize that it was leaked, so sorry about that), so I am hoping you and Bleedman can work this out and be on good terms with each other again. Because the Grim Tales story did seem like it was at its best when you guys were working together (not saying everything since then has been terrible, but a little more speed in the story (not the page release dates because I get that stuff takes time) would be very welcomed at this point).

          • Grids

            06/17/2016 at 2:20pm

            I’d love to help improve it but there are several aspects that MUST be addressed first that stem directly from plot being interfered with since I left.
            For one, Minimandy apparently being pure evil. What sort of nonsense is that? It came absolutely out of nowhere.
            Less Chi pop culture references. SB and GT are becoming parodies of their once wonderful selves. Chi almost serves as the same insipid reference machine that the new Powerpuff TV show tries to be.
            Overlord council. Do it properly, do it right. You have the heads of many major territories in the same area. Do it properly, do it right. If in charge, I’d make it not a petty shouting match between Mandy and Him but the stage where EVERYTHING gets turned on its head and sets the remainder of the story in motion.
            I will do it properly. I will do it right.

          • Aros001

            06/17/2016 at 8:02pm

            I can definitely agree that the pop culture references need to be toned down a bit, because they will end up badly dating the series. I don’t have a problem with a product being both serious and funny as long as it knows how to balance itself with the tone it wants (like The Dark Knight or Kung Fu Panda, both are serious and funny but they don’t both have the same ratio of funny/serious).

            I have mixed feelings on Minimandy right now. I don’t have trouble believing that she has a hidden dark side or that Junior possibly loving another girl is what’s allowing it to slip through, but the fact that she and Junior have not been allowed to have much interaction with each other since she became darker, other than the scenes where Minnie refused to talk with him, make it hard to say whether this change had good reasons behind it or if it was done just because (I’m a fan of Marvel and DC, so believe me, I know about bad retcons). The pages are coming out faster but the story itself is going pretty slow. Maybe it’ll pick up once Chi finally meets Junior and Minnie or when the Overlord Council meets. But for now it seems we are stuck in the transition parts of the story instead of the events. Moving towards the stuff we want to see but are not actually there yet.

            Again, I hope you, Bleedman, and NEK can work things out and be partners on this story again.

          • Grids

            06/17/2016 at 8:17pm

            You will notice that bleed and NEK have almost entirely avoided having Minnie speak since she relies on her Ye Olde English tendencies. Given how NEK is an editor who consistently fails to be good at his job and Bleed’s first language ISNT English I’d say that perhaps they’re worried they can’t make her seem authentic anymore.
            The nonsense with Minnie setting off Te traps and eacaping on the electric hoverboard (seriously that was one fucking stupid moment) would have been FAR better served had she actually spoken up about things.
            But what was accomplished instead? Precisely nothing.

          • red bear

            06/18/2016 at 9:47am

            Ah, I somehow thought that “Afterbirth” was some sort of private commission to some of the stuff. I felt kind of guilty for reading it for free from non-official source, so I avoided even mentioning it.
            “Kill the ghost twins”? Bloody hell, no! They were the most pleasant (as in “to watch them interacting” and “refreshing”, don’t get me wrong) thing. Jesus Christ, please. I somehow even can bear Mimi’s disappearance, but for Twins to being officially considered non-existing ever…
            I don’t know, may be I have a really terrible taste, but for me AB was one of the most solid GT stories I’ve read so far.

          • Grids

            06/18/2016 at 11:27am

            I appreciate your words. It could have been handled much better than it was, by all parties, but it’s nice to know it still brought some enjoyment.

            NEK’s rampant killing threats aside, GT faces a whole new problem with this Jewel character. From what I’ve heard, she may very well hijack the comic and undermine the importance of every major character so far.

          • athdlg

            06/18/2016 at 12:23pm

            Jewel Tales.

          • nomfish

            06/18/2016 at 2:18pm

            Wait, so MimiXJr is confirmed? Ok seriously , but how they heck is Jewel here?
            I just want things to add up. Finish the character that are here instead of tapering off.
            Do they not pre-write things or something?

          • Lolwutpear_126

            06/18/2016 at 5:49pm

            I would very much like to be an editor for these comics. English may not be my first language, but I always pay close attention to what I’m writing. Besides, a good knowledge of English will be crucial for my future profession (translating) anyway. I’m not so sure about dealing with people such as Bleed and NEK, though. I think communication with them would be highly frustrating, and I’m afraid that in the end I would have to take matters in my own hand or choose for rather crude methods to keep the comics afloat. I don’t have a lot of patience with losers and difficult people.

            The appearance of Jewel in this comic is highly inappropriate and it messes with the canon story so incredibly much. Jewel is supposed to be Mimi and Junior’s daughter, but how can she be appearing in the story RIGHT NOW? It doesn’t make any damn sense! I’m SO frustrated with both Bleed and NEK right now. GT was SUCH a good comic, so powerful and interesting to read. Up until the appearance of that goddamn Chi…then it went all down the drain. It’s become painful to watch Bleed and NEK raping every possible character in the comic like this. Seriously.

          • Lolwutpear_126

            06/18/2016 at 5:51pm

            Also, Mindsnare used to be an interesting and mysterious character. Now he’s just slowly becoming a parody… Truly painful to watch…

          • Sigment

            06/18/2016 at 6:55pm

            Looking at the name of the GT page, I’m inclined to guess that Jewel’s there to be a “hallucination” of Chi’s, brought on by how much she misses her, or some crap like that. I’m half expecting her to rub her eyes, look again, and see her actually be human-looking or a ghost or other form of demon, etc.

          • nomfish

            06/18/2016 at 7:13pm

            Or she simply cant believe what she is seeing…Which either way, the cameo isnt really needed and delays the comic.

          • Sigment

            06/18/2016 at 7:19pm

            I’ll certainly agree with that. Whole page reeked of “pointless”.

          • Lolwutpear_126

            06/18/2016 at 7:34pm

            Sorry, I just really needed to vent for a bit. It’s really sad to see how such a good comic of such quality is becoming a pointless shitty mess…

          • Sigment

            06/18/2016 at 7:42pm

            It’s always sad to see something degrade into a mere shadow of itself. It’s for that reason I prefer to think of this Melancholy stuff as fanfiction or something like that. Prequel or no, it’s crap compared to SB before the writer passed away.

          • breaker335

            06/19/2016 at 2:59am

            Its funny, for the longest time, I thought certain plot points for Down Below were setting up for Afterbirth, like Dan boning Mandy and the talk about a future child.

  • boomerlover8

    06/16/2016 at 7:43am

    I knew she was gonna murre those bears

  • Horohoro

    06/16/2016 at 5:46am

    Ok, that’s really messed up.

    • Lerianis

      06/17/2016 at 7:21am

      What part? That the shadow guy knows something that is supposed to be a ‘family secret’ of Ginger’s family? That Licorice is nibbling like a cannibal on the gummy bears head?
      Plenty of stuff in this one that could be called ‘messed up’.

      • red bear

        06/18/2016 at 9:26am

        How the hell Lico eating this little gummy creeps are “messed up”? It’s the most right thing to do.

  • Grids

    06/16/2016 at 5:20am

    Breadmen? Mouse and cat? NEK are you inventing or inverting new words and terms to look cool?

    • Grids

      06/16/2016 at 9:29am

      Lico’s dress is missing its front frills.

      • athdlg

        06/16/2016 at 9:38am

        The frills disappear in more than just this page. Seems like Bleed doesn’t like to draw them unless it’s a close up on the dress.

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