Aid or InvadeInvader Zim: Manifest Doom


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bleedman

01/02/2016

I was hoping to post a new PPGD to start off the new year but oh well.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

  • Gameroverdose

    07/31/2016 at 11:16pm

    This is so interesting and good pictures too

  • silentknife

    05/30/2016 at 2:28pm

    So. Zim is gone for good?
    F*ck this comic

  • BlueLuxning

    01/14/2016 at 6:31am

    What the hell did I just miss

  • Lolwutpear_126

    01/12/2016 at 11:45am

    This is all quite amusing, I must say.

    Poor, poor humanity.

    • A.M. Gibert

      01/12/2016 at 5:24pm

      Amusing and headache-inducing.

  • Bubbafett

    01/10/2016 at 7:13pm

    Woah sorry Silver. I made a post agreeing with you on many issues and discussing that we found common ground on but apparently it was deleted o.O

  • silvercover

    01/10/2016 at 11:02am

    like they could even still post the comic here you know, the forums destruction dont matter.
    the only ones who got fucked with it will be you guys, since you guys lose out on a proper forum to post and discuss. oh sure you guys got those skype and shit, but it wont be as good as a forum that has quotes, underline, bolding, images, video, avi/sigs, formatting, color, etc.

    • Bubbafett

      01/10/2016 at 2:15pm

      You’re also someone that appears to need to be educated on things. I don’t know if the others will waste their time and I won’t waste mine. I checked out those links and read everything.

      But maybe I will tackle this one thing.
      “as if a reader would come here, look up the editor/writer of the comic, then emulate them to be some pedo. or if a kid comes here, that they would even look up the editor/writer, and as if they would contact them to do lewd stuff.”

      Sadly this is exactly how it happened. You know if you took a look at how these guys became public figures on DA and Snafu you would know that it’s all linked. You don’t seem to have done any research at all like the rest of us…pity. Go about your business.

      • silvercover

        01/10/2016 at 2:45pm

        there’s a mighty big difference though.
        those stuff are centered at DA since there you can get the request and its technically allowed/the point(people will draw art for you if you donate/do something for them). the people who’re requesting those favors for bleed are over there, not here. most of kids who go here, go here because of a comic, not because they know the guy does requests.
        you missed the problem anyway, their actions just ended up making us the big losers with the forum gone. not saying you cant bitch/complain, but you do not push it too far off or something like the forum going down happens. this is the same shit and reason why grim tales and like some of bleed’s comics are nose diving, because people kept on flaming nek. apparently now, assuming numa isnt lying, nek hates us readers and plans to kill off mimi.

        • Lolwutpear_126

          01/16/2016 at 4:12pm

          NEK never was competent as an editor to begin with. I don’t have English as my mother language and even I could still spot grammar and spelling mistakes on the comic pages being published on the site even after his so-called ‘reviewing’ of them.

  • silvercover

    01/10/2016 at 10:55am

    alright nvm, seems like its just back and forth between people arguing about grids.

    though im not exactly defending his actions… I fail to see the problem with him being part of the new comic if he has the skills for it and people want him.
    as for the argument about him being “representative” for snafu along with bleedman being bad, I dont think it matters at all anymore when they are pretty much the only ones left actually doing stuff in snafu? besides PSG, and even in that one bleed and grids had been involved for a bit, the rest of the comics still going on are by bleed and by default are “child pornography” as you guys like to say.

    just fucking abandon the site already then, clearly there’s nothing “good” left for you all white knights. the site might as well just be run by them. like seriously, who else would you guys have represent the snafu site that would actually make sense? previous artists who arent relevant/here anymore?
    if yall want some “decency”, then move on to more “friendly” comic sites. just report this site or something to appease your justice and leave this.
    you guys seem to think you’re salvaging it but no, just look at what happened. forums are gone, which means the community is more spread than ever, which isnt good with how it has barely come back since the original forums were destroyed.
    and its now going to be ironic, since if you guys were aiming to bring back some “decency”, most of those guys were frequenting in forums, probably not even reading the current comics due to how “indecent” they are. meanwhile the guys who enjoy, or as you guys like to call “disgusting pedos”, that just come to snafu for the comic without visiting the forums, are still here.

    • silvercover

      01/10/2016 at 11:12am

      as if a reader would come here, look up the editor/writer of the comic, then emulate them to be some pedo.
      or if a kid comes here, that they would even look up the editor/writer, and as if they would contact them to do lewd stuff.
      and for the DA posters for requests, those are a problem on DA and not related to snafu. and just to repeat, only the forums here would get affected by their nagging meanwhile the place where its happening wouldnt be affected.

      people seriously need to stop and think the consequences of their actions AND IF THEIR ACTIONS ARE EVEN GOING TO ACTUALLY MAKE AN IMPACT AT ALL TO THE PEOPLE THEIR TARGETING.

    • silvercover

      01/10/2016 at 11:17am

      the only ones who are getting the short end of the stick are us people that use the forum. meanwhile, grids, BR, numa and others involved could still have the comic be posted here in snafu if its already greenlit.
      this is why I said long time ago that you guys should just leave instead of bitching. it will only lead to getting even worse situation for us and not really the writers.

    • Bubbafett

      01/10/2016 at 2:10pm

      I can see you’re one people who are fine with Snafu being a cesspool. You’re happy to swim in it and gargle the collective spunk of Bleedman and Otako. That’s fine really.

  • silvercover

    01/10/2016 at 10:13am

    oh wow, so the discussion are concentrated here huh.

    this will take quite a while to read…

  • Topaz

    01/10/2016 at 8:47am

    You wish.

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 8:58am

      You’re choosing to get along with a convicted pedophile who shows no remorse for his actions aside from “being nice.” He went to prison. Big whoop. Woulda been in there a hell of a lot longer if he hadn’t appealed. You do realise that people get out of prison and continue committing crimes afterwards, right? Prison isn’t a punishment to those who are sick.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:02am

        LOL. Okay, yeah. Keep thinking that, buddy. Have fun continuing to have no one.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:06am

        Nice to know you’re still uninformed. Several of us have been in contact with BR since the forum was shut down.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:08am

        Quite hilarious.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:18am

        Blood Lord will never come back.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:23am

        Oh, we know he’s already here. But in a potential future where the forum is back up, Blood Lord won’t be there. Ever. He’s harassed Hiroko endlessly. Stalked her for over a year. Drawn death art of her characters. Created an endless number of alternate accounts on several sites to try to get in good with her again. Blood Lord is not coming back.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:26am

        BR is a nice guy, but he’s not so thick that he’d forgive someone who has harassed a member of his staff and allow him back to the forum. He’s nice, but he’s not a fucking idiot.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:30am

        That does seem likely, Birdy. Though if BR says it will be so, it will be so. He’s not the type to go back on his word.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:35am

        Seems a bit strange considering you just mentioned that everyone will dogpile on you and make you the new target for hatred. To be honest, Birdy, you gave people plenty of reason to hate you here without your defending Griddles. It’s probably in your best interests to find a new community to haunt.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:40am

        I like how you assume you’ve been here longer than me despite not actually knowing who I am. gg kid.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:42am

        Also you’re not getting an apology for defending a pedophile and pedophilia, purposely misgendering someone, using the n-word, spouting bullshit as if it’s fact, denying factual evidence, and purposely riling people up.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 9:58am

        Fact: You have purposely misgendered Luka in order to anger her.
        Fact: You feel entitled to use the n-word despite not being black. My friend up there IS black which gives them the right to use the word that WHITE MEN use to oppress them.
        Fact: You have literally said “I know about Griddles fucking his sister” and moved on passed that as if it’s no big deal. His sister was underaged. He’s also done several other heinous acts of pedophilia. You’re willing to forgive a person for doing some of the most heinous acts that a human being can commit simply because he did three years of prison? You’re a misguided soul, ma’am.
        Fact: Otako didn’t stop working with Griddles because of his past. She stopped working with him because it was a PR nightmare. As I’ve shown you proof of prior to this. Yet another instance of you ignoring factual evidence, Birdy.

        I am not fueled by hate, Birdy. You’re the one continuing these arguments because of how much you hate this. You’ve said it yourself a handful of times. It must suck to be such a hateful person, Birdy.
        I am fueled by what I believe is right. I believe that the acts Griddles committed are some of the most heinous acts that a human being can commit and getting three years of prison due to him appealing is not suitable justice. I believe that Griddles completely avoiding the topic any time it has been brought up is despicable and is not a sign of true remorse for his actions. I believe Griddles has evaded every chance of redemption that he has been offered. I believe that if Griddles wanted to start fresh and become a better person, he wouldn’t come back to the places and be in the positions he was in when he took advantage of several underaged girls. I believe the comic project that he is working on should not be featured on Snafu because of his past and how it will drag Snafu’s reputation deeper through the mud than it already has been. I am not fueled by my hatred for this man, Birdy. I am fueled by my belief that this man is doing literally everything wrong and shouldn’t be allowed a second chance until he addresses what he did, tells us that he’s ashamed of his actions, knows that nothing can be done to fix the things that he did, and that he will be doing his best to rehabilitate himself. I do not believe that Griddles is beyond redemption. But he has not even taken the first step towards it.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 10:02am

        Apologise for misgendering Luka and I will apologise for continuing to do it with you, Birdy.

      • Topaz

        01/10/2016 at 10:11am

        I am sincerely sorry for misgendering you to get back at you for misgendering another. You have earned back your man badge by owning up to your mistakes and fuckups.

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 8:59am

      Like… Going to prison for three years does not automatically cleanse you of all of your sins. That’s not how it works.

      • Bubbafett

        01/10/2016 at 10:30am

        But if you hate pedophiles and Griddles is one, then surely you see the contradiction? It sounds more like you’re sad he about what he is and you are unable to connect the Griddles who appears nice and the one capable of doing such terrible things. They’re one and the same. You can’t separate someone like that.
        I mean its like saying this

        “I like Adolf Hitler. He’s a friendly guy. I hate mass genocide, but that doesn’t mean I hate Hitler. I hate what he’s done.”

        Take what you said and apply it to any other crime or criminal in history and you might say “Oh no. I definitely despise Hitler on all accounts.”

        Usually we completely distance ourselves from friends who break the mould in that way or any way related

      • Bubbafett

        01/10/2016 at 2:07pm

        I’m glad my comparison had the desired effect. It could be easily said (and has been) that your opinions of Griddles are not at all classy. I can see where you’re coming from now as opposed to reading your initial reasoning. Sounds rather conflicted. Oh and I’m just a lurker. Never made an account and if I did it’s lost now.

  • MasterQueif

    01/10/2016 at 7:04am

    Forgiveness is not a neccecity of morality, as morality is something subjective to society, seeing as we dont live in saudi arabia I wont be defending someone tantamount to a child molester/ rapist

    I have often said myself that eventually the things we find abhorrent in a future society may be used against us to make us look backwards, but we are in the present, dont try to indirectly defend a pedophile and now pedophila.

    Secondly, I’m black, me , referencing racial issues, or using racially charged names that deal with MY people does not make this something you have any place weighing in on at all even using the word nigger is nowhere near tantamount to you saying it you arrogant little afterbirth. For the record however I only said the word “nigga” because even I find the word nigger repugnant you fucking troglodyte

  • Princess

    01/10/2016 at 6:58am

    Birddot confirmed as KKK.

    • Princess

      01/10/2016 at 7:02am

      Brah, you were never gold because you were, and continue to be, a fucking moron. Your devil’s advocate stance is disgusting and good god, I pray for the people you know irl.

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 7:06am

      Dude, you’re the one that brought it up.

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 7:11am

      Yes but in an argument of, and I quote, “I love how people constantly bring up how I wasn’t gold” being brought up after Princess’s post, you’re clearly the one in the wrong because you’re the one who brought it up prior to Princess mentioning it. Her honing in on it is irrelevant, Birdy.

  • Princess

    01/10/2016 at 2:33am

    If he hates homos, I’m down with being hated by Birddot.

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 6:26am

      Come on, Princess, don’t be so hard on Bird Oft Error. Can’t you see she’s genuinely trying to understand and not trying to be an ass at all? Give her a break.

    • Princess

      01/10/2016 at 6:39am

      LMFAO! Okay, with that logic.. Birddot is an ill-informed, transphobic, homophobic, pedophile apologist asshole who needs to go to therapy! 😀

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 6:40am

      Yeah Princess. She just judges people based on their actions alone. Like how she judges Griddles on being a sex offender. And Luka for calling out that sex offender. She’s an equal opportunity bigot!

    • Princess

      01/10/2016 at 6:50am

      Dude, no matter your opinion on a person.. you shouldn’t be misgendering. People shitposting Griddles? It’s not shitposting. He’s a convicted pedophile. He can do time all he wants, but it doesn’t change the things he wrote or the sharing of his SISTER’S, A CHILD, pictures. I don’t understand how you do not get this. He shouldn’t be back on a website that was basically a scene of the crime. A website with other underage children. Irl there would be him registering as a sex offender and not allowed near any children in a certain radius. Why should this be different?

    • Princess

      01/10/2016 at 7:00am

      I don’t forgive child molesters. I don’t forgive anyone taking advantage of a CHILD when they are supposed to be an ADULT. Are you sore on this subject because you are also a pedophile? Is this what’s going on?

    • Princess

      01/10/2016 at 7:07am

      He ignored my pedo accusation, guys. Birddot is a pedo. #confirmed

      Please, see Birddot as a pedo. Thank you.

      I said please and thank you. Obviously you must believe.

    • Exodis

      01/10/2016 at 7:12am

      Well, she was being polite about it… I can’t not believe that.

  • Princess

    01/09/2016 at 11:15pm

    “It wasn’t so long ago that homosexuals and transsexuals were in the same boat as pedophiles. ”

    DAMN THEM HOMO AND TRANS PEOPLE LIVING THEIR LIVES NOT TOUCHING CHILDREN! DAMN THEM!

    • ULTRADJ

      01/10/2016 at 1:24am

      He didn’t say he hated Homo’s and trans, he said people way back when thought of them in the same league as pedo’s. He nor I have a problem with them at all.

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 1:45am

      and yet he constantly misgenders Luka. alrighty then.

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 6:22am

      Oh so you’re just a miserable person who believes that the correct usage of someone’s pronouns needs to be earned as opposed to being default. Well in that case, I guess I’ll just refer to you as a woman because you haven’t earned the right to be referred to as a man. c:

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 6:41am

      Tut tut, Birdy. Honestly, you’re never going to earn your proper pronouns at this rate. You need to start kissing some serious ass to re-earn your man badge. You do make for a rather pretty lady though.

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 6:50am

      Ah, so you liken calling someone an “asshole” to refusing to call someone by their proper pronouns, is that it? Yeah, that makes sense. Except for the fact that it’s a load of absolute shit. Birdy, if I were to call you an asshole right now, would that really cut down to the core of who you are as a person? Do you personally identify yourself as an asshole? I mean, it’d make every interaction with you much less of a surprise if you opened with it. “Hi there, I’m Bird Oft Error and I’m an asshole.” “Oh, now I expect you to say things that an asshole would say. Thanks for the heads up!” No. Calling someone an asshole is a petty derogatory term for someone who’s, well, acting like an asshole. Refusing to call someone by their pronouns isn’t that. It’s cutting a person at who they are at a fundamental level. Acknowledging them that you do not see them as who they are. Refusing to acknowledge their entire identity. You cannot call yourself an ally to any trans person if you would purposely misgender someone to make them angry, because it is a fundamentally shitty thing for you to do. You do not respect these people. You do not see these people as who they actually are. You’re a bigoted, idiotic, moronic, piece of transphobic garbage.

  • MasterQueif

    01/09/2016 at 7:33pm

    Where did you normally post Loser? I remember seeing you around once or twice and you never seemed that bad

    • Bloodlord

      01/09/2016 at 7:43pm

      Wanna join our Discord?

    • Ether101

      01/09/2016 at 7:47pm

      I posted a little bit in the comic section and then stopped. I’ve been revising the forums every now and then but its was boring before it had to be completely redone a few years back and all of the artist leaving didn’t help either.

  • MasterQueif

    01/09/2016 at 7:32pm

    We have the intellectual, and the moral high ground, you are fighting an uphill battle defending a pedophile man, he shouldnt be supported and should be continually condemned, he made his bed and must lay in it now

  • Gardeeian

    01/09/2016 at 7:30pm

    We also have the moral high ground. Oh we do have evidence.
    I’m laughing now because you displayed such a lack of understanding these events and you dare to say we have none.
    pfft xp you silly

  • Topaz

    01/09/2016 at 7:27pm

    Hi Loser. c: How are you?

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 7:33pm

      Hey Ether 🙂

    • Ether101

      01/09/2016 at 7:36pm

      I’m alright and you?

      • Topaz

        01/09/2016 at 7:37pm

        I, for one, am pretty good! Were you wondering why the forum is down? I think Thomas got sick of Snafu and shut it down. BR’s presently trying to get into contact with him to see if he can get it back up, but it’s not looking hopeful.

        • Ether101

          01/09/2016 at 7:49pm

          Okay, it just sounds like there’s a lot of shit going on and people trying to stick up for their friends casing drama for it to be just that.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 7:51pm

          It does seem like there’s more going on than just that, doesn’t it.

  • MasterQueif

    01/09/2016 at 7:27pm

    what is this sentence, what is grammar?

  • Gardeeian

    01/09/2016 at 7:16pm

    You think you proved your point? You won’t even look at evidence. What are you afraid of?

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 7:23pm

      Here ya go, Birdy. https://otakoisshit.tumblr. com/

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 7:24pm

      Oh weird, we can actually post links on this page. https://otakoisshit.tumblr.com/

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 7:31pm

      It’s evidence to literally everything I’ve mentioned in my conversation with you. I’m providing you with something you haven’t provided me with. Your side of the argument is pure speculation and your point of view. That blog has concrete evidence and several different points of view. Even some from people not affiliated with Snafu in the first place. Hell, even one person who presently works for Otako Studio.

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 7:33pm

      Do you only visit this website?

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 7:49pm

      This has to continue because people like this shouldn’t be representing Snafu. Bleedman was bad enough as it is, but now we’ll have Griddles as well as Otako Studio. If the site were to die due to being associated with convicted felons and art thieves, then it would probably be for the best in the first place.

    • MasterQueif

      01/09/2016 at 7:49pm

      Its not a parody its treated as a direct sequel, they say so themselves go look at the article man, they do not parody it or do anything original with it at all, they copied the formula, writing style, and art style and have made a comic explicitly treated as if it were season two, they are copy pasting panty and stocking, the story may be newm but at best that only makes it fanfiction, loosely paraphrasing is STILL PLAGIARISM.

      And if you read the article youd know they are asking to be paid for it, and that it is the only thing they will be focusing on

    • Bloodlord

      01/09/2016 at 7:53pm

      Honestly. We didn’t think this would be a defining moment at all. We never expected it to happen. Thomas has stated before that working on the site alongside Screenwave has been tough. We’re surprised this made him give up on it when it could have been handled internally. No moderators had a chance to intervene. It occurred so fast.

  • MasterQueif

    01/09/2016 at 7:14pm

    I am the hope of the comment section! I am the answer to all of the fuckboys who only talk shit! I am the guardian of common sense! I am not a Pedophile! Ally to IQ ! Nightmare to you!

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 7:21pm

      A second ago you completely disagreed. Do you even know what you belief. WHAT DO YOU BELIEF!?

      Griddles is scum but can have a decent conversation. Ted Bundy was charming. i suppose he gets a pass for being a serial killer?

    • MasterQueif

      01/09/2016 at 7:23pm

      I am vengance, I am the night, I am, THE BLACKMAN

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 7:28pm

      So what you’re saying is…you’re gullible and naive? You bought a nice guy charade. Don’t get all murderous on us because you fucked up. How old are you anyway?

      We can teach you why your words don’t make sense.

      Let us help you. It’s time.

  • Topaz

    01/09/2016 at 6:11pm

    Also we love people that are different fonts from us. Sans and Papyrus would never do shit like this.

  • Topaz

    01/09/2016 at 6:05pm

    Actually if you lived with your eyes open, you’d see that she consistently tries to play the whole thing off as either a) she didn’t know about him, b) the entire thing is fake, or c) it was actually some other guy that got arrested and not Griddles at all. and she came storming into the forum pointing fingers at people blaming them for letting out the information that she was working with Griddles, despite the fact that both her and Griddles announced their little partnership themselves. she’s not on our “side.” she didn’t fire Griddles because of what he did or who he is. she fired Griddles because it was a PR disaster that resulted in several artists refusing to work with the studio.

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:18pm

      Oh look at how uninformed you are, little birdy. No no no. No. As the artist rank had access to the gold members section (which you wouldn’t know, because you didn’t), Otako came storming into a thread that we used for discussing how to better the forums and started accusing people of spamming her Twitter, Tumblr, and DeviantArt with complaints and accusations. Now keep in mind we had no idea who the fuck she was prior to who doing this. Hell, we didn’t even know the deal about her and Griddles until about an hour or two before she announced that she wasn’t working with him anymore. I seriously don’t know where you’re getting your information birdy, but you only know about half of the stuff that you actually should.

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:20pm

      And we’re talking about Otako being so full of piss and vinegar about something that she did herself that even BR and Thomas were considering banning her. Hell, I’m pretty sure we put her on probation for a time because of all the shit that she would start.

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:25pm

      Oh my GOD you are so salty, dude. You know who spammed the Otako Studio social media sites? People completely unrelated to Snafu. People who had the massive displeasure of working with their shoddy studio. People who already despised them for stealing art, OCs, and refusing to pay artists. Griddles was only the cherry on the top of the Otako Studio shit sundae.

      And birdy, gold members were an experiment from the start. An EXPERIMENT. It was never meant to be a permanent facet of the forum. Which, of course, you wouldn’t know because no one tells you anything because you’re nobody.

      • Sentios

        01/25/2016 at 3:34am

        Fact Check: Gold was always a special snowflake thing for the spam clique, even when you tried to hide it by recruiting long time users that weren’t in the clique. Several of us called you all on it mere days after it’s implementation even. It was a dead end that would never lead to anything constructive and sure enough it led to nothing positive.

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:29pm

      Birdy, you realise that both her and Griddles announced their collaboration on DeviantArt about a month before the announcement that they weren’t working together anymore, right? Oh, you didn’t know that? You’re just assuming things from your own narrow point of view? Yeah that’s what I thought.

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:30pm

      Like, this info was out there for an entire month. What was that about an impossible window of time? 30 days sounds like a completely possible window of time to me.

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:35pm

      Birdy, are you reading a single thing that I’m saying? I’ve already told you that none of us even knew about Otako working with Griddles until a short while before it was announced that they were no longer working together. We didn’t wait to unload all of our vitriol until the last possible second. We had no vitriol as we were completely unaware of the entire matter. We have firsthand accounts of artists commissioned by Otako Studio refusing to work with them due to their involvement with Griddles. Commissioned artists who have absolutely nothing to do with Snafu or the forum. Artists who were uncomfortable with working for a studio that would employ a sex offender. Oh, but of course you’re still going to turn it around to the shitposting of me and several others, providing no evidence whatsoever.

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:47pm

      B-Birdy? What I’m getting at is the fact that there was an entire month’s worth of time for people to send hate and complaints to Otako Studio’s social media platforms. An entire month of the studio working with a sex offender. And prior to that? God knows how long of them taking advantage of other artists, as well as stealing/tracing art, and stealing OCs. Now I don’t know how good you are with math, Birdy, but let me give you a little equation here, alright? Let’s see… Working with a sex offender + stealing art + stealing OCs + horrible PR skills = (x) Solve for x, Birdy. Oh wait, you shouldn’t have to, because it’s obvious to everyone that Otako Studio is a lightning rod for hate. They didn’t STOP getting hate within that month of working with Griddles. They didn’t STOP getting hate until they announced that they weren’t working with him anymore. And even then they still got some afterwards. So you’re telling me that 30 days of constant hate overlapping with the one day that anyone on Snafu knowing that they were collaborating couldn’t be just a bit of a coincidence? My, you sure are blinded by your anger, Birdy.

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 6:50pm

      There’s actual incorrect. Since you weren’t in Gold and have not read insider proof with detailed chat logs. If you’d like to see everything we can show you.

      “Now, it may LOOK like I’m defending child molesters,”
      No you definitely are. You stated so a few minutes ago. Don’t forget what you post.

      “but that’s only because I hate you so much that I only have enough hate to hate one thing at a time. On normal days, I have enough energy to hate two things.”

      You need to probably take a hammer and smash your computer up if that’s your logical answer to how you feel about someone you don’t know from a website dedicated to a powerpuff girl comic.

    • KKKronicMasturhater

      01/09/2016 at 6:55pm

      You do know that we gold members were unaware of her existence until she came storming into our forum like a bull in a china shop?

      She was an insignificant pissant like bleedman, until that nigress stepped on our turf and bit her fuckin thumb at us.

      No one talked to or about that knobhead until she came at us for something we didnt do, all we did was say griddles shouldnt be gold

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:57pm

      Well Birdy, you are clearly blinded by your anger, so I think I’m just going to leave it at that. You won’t see reason. You won’t provide any form of evidence. Hell, you won’t even ask me for the evidence that I have that completely contradicts everything that you’re saying. It seems to me that all you wanna do is shitpost and argue with someone like you did on the forum. Oh well, continue defending a sex offender than. Let me know where that gets you.

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 7:04pm

      I love that there’s nothing holding you back, Birdo. We see you now. Unbound. Unbent. Standing as tall as you can. You’d die a martyr for a paedophile just to spite others. No one would weep for you. There would be no grave. No funeral. Just buried deep with your thumbs up your ass.

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 7:08pm

      Never mind that. You should see what we’re dealing with. Yikes.

    • MasterQueif

      01/09/2016 at 7:09pm

      The ground would slowly die, all intellegent life being drained until it withers away into nothing, your remain burrowing itself deep into the earth, until you reach the mantle and are destroyed by the fires of intelectualism, banished to the void of idiocy from which ultradj ejaculated you

  • Lolwutpear_126

    01/09/2016 at 12:00pm

    Yep, the drama will just continue here instead of on the forums.

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 1:32pm

      It’s as if the forum was never deleted. Well at least it keeps them happy.

  • athdlg

    01/09/2016 at 4:31am

    You’re already in the discord one.

    • ULTRADJ

      01/09/2016 at 8:27pm

      I think I was booted out. Tell who ever is reasonable in there to say I want to talk to Tuor or Thomas directly.

      • Bloodlord

        01/09/2016 at 10:34pm

        Thomas is not there.

      • athdlg

        01/10/2016 at 2:15am

        After these shenanigans? I doubt they want you in.
        You can try to get in touch with Thomas, but I don’t think you’ll get the answer you’re seeking out that hasn’t either already been mentioned or assumed.

  • ULTRADJ

    01/08/2016 at 10:54pm

    Hey BeeAre. Can I get in contact with Thomas? I would like to ask a few questions about the forum. Unless you or Tuor can answer them.

  • Gardeeian

    01/08/2016 at 6:06pm

    No one likes you.

    • ULTRADJ

      01/08/2016 at 11:02pm

      Okay, who the hell are you? Are you a user from the forums or just some random asshole?

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 5:51am

      Birdots of feather flock together.

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 5:54am

        LOL “leagues ahead”. I honestly don’t know how natural selection hasn’t grabbed you yet.

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 6:39pm

        You’re getting close.

    • KKKronicMasturhater

      01/09/2016 at 6:00am

      UltraDJ’s posts must have been lightyears ahead, into a distant future where society has collapsed in on itself and the smart bow before the idiotic

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 6:05am

        Ahem to that brother. See? This is just like the forums. Keeping you active and on your toes 🙂

    • KKKronicMasturhater

      01/09/2016 at 6:13am

      Every post you make continue to convince me that the better part of you ran down your mothers leg during conception, did whatever sperm cell you had the misfortune of being happen to travel from your fathers ass crack before reaching her womb? Because all you do is spout nonsensical bullshit whenever you post

      • Topaz

        01/09/2016 at 5:19pm

        DJ, weren’t you just begging to join group chats with these scum just yesterday?

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 5:29pm

        I know who KKKronicMasturhater is. We are here to poke you Griddle lovers with sticks. It’s working really well. Oh and yeah Ultra. You were booted from Discord ages ago. No one wants you there. Just sit here and drool in the corner.

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 5:37pm

        Watching Birdo and DJ reminds me of 2001 space odysseys’ dawn of man scene. As hilarious as this is. Perhaps we should allow them to circle jerk the black obelisk (Griddles) in peace?

      • Topaz

        01/09/2016 at 6:00pm

        Actually most of our conversations revolve around screaming about Steven Universe. There’s not really much circle jerking to be had.

      • Topaz

        01/09/2016 at 6:23pm

        Did I say that? No? I didn’t think so.

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 6:31pm

        I feel your anger. it gives you fffffffffffocus~

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 6:54pm

        It seems you need everything explained to you.

      • Topaz

        01/09/2016 at 7:20pm

        Actually it’s from Revenge of the Sith but I don’t blame you for thinking it was written by a child.

      • ULTRADJ

        01/09/2016 at 8:20pm

        @Topaz Only for the sole purpose on contacting the former admins of the forums to ask some questions. I knew they are probably hanging around the former members of the forums so I’ll reach them through there.

      • ULTRADJ

        01/09/2016 at 8:26pm

        @Gardeeian I don’t know who you are, and I could give to shits. But I will get in contact with the former admins, like it or not.

      • Bloodlord

        01/09/2016 at 9:11pm

        You are free to try. But its basically Thomas’s decision. BR wasn’t around and neithee was Tuor at the time. Besides Thomas was the web designer.

  • Gardeeian

    01/08/2016 at 5:41am

    Bloodlord, did you even read what I said. That goes for you as well Birdot. THIS site is completely controlled by screenwave media as apposed to THE FORUM WHICH IS OFFSITE which was controlled by Thomas. HENCE the admins and mods having no power HERE. Reading is important kids.

  • Topaz

    01/08/2016 at 5:12am

    Believe it or not, some of those ex-mods actually cared for the forum and site at some point. Luka and Soth worked in conjunction with BR to bring life back to the forum. Their efforts wrestled control from the incompetent and absent Dave and gave it to BR who, at the time, had genuinely good ideas about making the site and forum great again. Instead of having to wait on Dave to make literally any change ever, the admin/mod team could actually get things done themselves. However, years of inaction from BR, Dave, Bleedman, and the rest of the content creators caused the forum to sink to its greatest low in history. Despite impassioned pleas from such people as Luka, Hiroko, and Tuor, people like Q.U. and BR chose to keep troublemakers like Haru, Otako, and Griddles on the forum, based on following arbitrary rules that they themselves created. After two years of watching the forum slowly crumble, some of the mod staff lost hope. Some sought to abandon the place completely, but still clung to desperate feelings of nostalgia and affection for the place. Some spent much of their formative years engaged in shitposting and flamewars with people they now consider to be closer than family. In retaining their modship, they grew bitter toward the forum, the site, and the community as a whole and they eventually abandoned the title of mod, set a few fires, and left completely. However, upon seeing people talk amicably about looking forward to a new comic project from a convicted pedophile, guilty of drawing pornography of underaged girls, writing a 669 paragraph pornographic fanfiction detailing graphic sex with a 12-year-old, and sharing lewd photos of his underaged sister with his friends, well… this ex-mod was not pleased. The fact remains that Griddles has yet to explain what happened, take responsibility, or even mention it for that matter. He says he wants to start over and become a new person, but it’s strange, then, that he’d go back to the two places where he has the fame and influence to take advantage of those younger and more impressionable than him; Snafu Comics and DeviantArt. This one ex-mod took it upon herself to call out the injustice of once again employing a convicted sex offender and letting him represent the site. If you cared one iota about Snafu Comics, you’d hate the fact that Griddles represents you. And then the forum was shut down. In the middle of the mayhem. With the flimsy excuse of Thomas being “sick of the forum.” And you know what? I am proud of it. That place survived far longer than it ever should have. Before my eyes, it became a hive of scum and villainy. The very place I longed to serve and protect had festered beyond my control. And yet I’m being blamed for its downfall. Don’t blame me. Blame people like Griddles. Blame people like BR for protecting people like Griddles.

    • Gardeeian

      01/08/2016 at 5:43am

      Preach it. This is the real truth.

    • Groverman62

      01/08/2016 at 2:37pm

      BR protects Grids because he is his friend and colleague.

      • Gardeeian

        01/08/2016 at 6:06pm

        Yeah we know how feelings can be misplaced.

    • numa430

      01/08/2016 at 6:28pm

      Grids was given a second chance for reasons and moved on from the past events.
      People like you and those who attacked him have no heart and passion what so ever to a friend and colleague of BR who is also happen to be my friend as well that hired me for a new project in line.

      Yet did you or anyone else care?
      No. No you didn’t and instead repeatedly attack him for no reason.
      People like you and Gardeeian is for a matter of a fact a selfish little immature prick.

      You should be a shame of you’re self for doing so in the beginning.

      • Topaz

        01/08/2016 at 6:45pm

        I have never once in my life been a shame of myself.

      • Gardeeian

        01/08/2016 at 7:22pm

        WOw. I hope they didn’t hire you as a writer.

    • BeeAre

      01/08/2016 at 6:49pm

      What was Griddles going to do on the forums that needed protecting from, Topaz? :\

      I am asking honestly: should I have SIMPLY banned him and cut off communication from him?

      He went to prison, and therefore hypothetically, he served his debt to society for his crimes.

      Do you think that punishment was not enough?

      I am not the Australian Government. I am not to arbitrate on behavior off the forums, not officially, am I?

      Would that not be an overreach of my power as an administrator?

      If you disagree, that’s fine. If you simply think that people like Griddles do not deserve forgiveness, and that I made a mistake in trying to let him have any, then I sincerely apologize. This is not snark, I really do understand that it might have just been outright a mistake on my part. That to some people, forgiveness is an unacceptable outcome. That I must have overlooked these people is an obvious an apparent mistake on my part, now.

      A big mistake.

      If that’s what you think: that I was “protecting” Griddles because I thought his having served a prison sentence meant he was already punished, and that by not banning him and removing him from the site entirely and in every way, I did not do enough…

      If that is how my actions are interpreted, then yes.

      I made a mistake.

      Sincerely, I apologize for this error. It seems to be academic now, with the forums shut down, but I want you to know that I’m sorry.

      I am sorry for my decisions. I did not realize they would lead to this.

      I returned to my home after a long trip over the holidays, not knowing any of this had transpired.

      I’m sick all the time, and have no energy to fight.

      This is not an argument, this is an apology. An admission, if you want.

      I did not think I should judge Griddles if his government already did.

      This was wrong of me.

      Again, I am not being sarcastic. I am not trying to avoid blame.

      I’m just sorry. I would have liked the forums to keep going, and it seems patiently too strange that they should end over this.

      But it seems like it’s my fault.

      I will continue to investigate, so I can get a clearer picture, but this seems to be pretty concise as an indictment of it being me who was wrong.

      Yes. I will continue to investigate. But for now:

      I’m sorry.

      • Lolwutpear_126

        01/08/2016 at 11:09pm

        This is utterly despicable! How could you protect such..such a MONSTER? I am disgusted at you, BR. I thought you were an OK guy, but after reading all of this… It makes me sick…

        Don’t you know that pedophilia usually isn’t cured by just a prison sentence? It’s a mental illness. I do not believe in recovery from something like that. You should have kept Griddles far away from this site. Especially since Bleed’s comics tend to attract a younger audience… WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING…

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 5:53am

        Birdot you really are an uninformed sucker. You really do belong here on this dying message board. Just don’t let your ignorance rule you, buddy.

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 5:58am

        Like honestly. Step out of this website and do like 10 minutes of research and you’ll know much more than the bullshit you keep spouting.

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 1:35pm

        Don’t waste your time, Pear. The tinfoil hat is too tight on Birdot’s head. Do you use tumblr?

      • Topaz

        01/09/2016 at 5:06pm

        Ah yes, the love and creation of sticking your dick in an underaged girl. What could be more wonderful than that?

      • Topaz

        01/09/2016 at 5:14pm

        Seriously, it’s almost as if you people WANT to be represented by a child molester. I ain’t gonna hold that against you. Whatever floats your boat, you get what I mean? If you like Bleedman’s comics, I see where you’re coming from. Loud and clear, Birdot. I get it. Have fun with Snafu as people like Griddles and Otako set fire to its already shitty reputation.

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 5:26pm

        There’s something really wrong with how your mind works, Birdo. You have no proof yet slander any evidence. Your defence is “He’s nice.”

        You probably just hear things through the grapevine. You don’t seem to have the mental capacity to be objective and search for yourself. You’re pretty much a sheep. At least this is giving you something to do.

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 6:30pm

        “I’m aware of how he fucked his owns sister”

        “To say that anyone is utterly and completely beyond redemption is the single most ignorant thing any human being can say”

        I’m at a loss for words here quite frankly. I mean. I don’t need to say anything. You slit your own throat with that statement.

      • KKKronicMasturhater

        01/09/2016 at 6:30pm

        Griddles isn’t a representative of the forum? You backwards fucknugget THE FORUMS MAIN MASCOT BLEEDMAN IS AN OPEN PEDOPHILE WHO TAKES MORE EFFORT IN GIVING HIS WEABOO ARMY FANSERVICE.

        I DONT NEED TO BE SELF RIGHTEOUS TO CONDEMN SOMEONE RAPING A CHILD!

        DID YOUR LOGIC CRAWL OUT OF A BULLS ASS? CUZ ITS BULLSHIT!, YOU WOULD NOT WELCOME A MURDERER OR A RAPIST BACK INTO SOCIETY< THIS GUY CLEARLY DIDNT LEARN HIS LESSON UNTIL HE GOT CAUGHT AND WOULD HAVE MOST LIKELY CONINUED IF HE HADNT, PLEASE take a blunt butterknife and commit seppuku

      • KKKronicMasturhater

        01/09/2016 at 6:31pm

        Griddles isn’t a representative of the forum? You backwards fucknugget THE FORUMS MAIN MASCOT BLEEDMAN IS AN OPEN PEDOPHILE WHO TAKES MORE EFFORT IN GIVING HIS WEABOO ARMY FANSERVICE.

        I DONT NEED TO BE SELF RIGHTEOUS TO CONDEMN SOMEONE RAPING A CHILD!

      • KKKronicMasturhater

        01/09/2016 at 6:33pm

        “Anakin the jedi are evil”

        “From my point of view the jedi are evil”

        You’re a fucking moron birdot, madmen must travel for miles to be entertained by your ravings

      • BeeAre

        01/09/2016 at 7:35pm

        Sorry, Pear.

        I just didn’t think I’m as qualified to review legal cases like a judge. I still don’t, but that does not matter.

        My own moral judgments about his past decisions, which I know and agree with you were and are among the worst crimes conceived in the mind–I thought my morality should be affixed to being impartial; to trying to be as fair as I could be, being the site’s administrator.

        This was clearly a significantly bad oversight on my part, as you and many others keep pointing out.

        You, and most everyone here disagree that strongly, and are right that he should have not been allowed back on the board.

        I am sorry.

        If the forums do return, Griddles will not return to them.

  • A.M. Gibert

    01/07/2016 at 4:03pm

    Is there no end to this immature child’s behavior? I feel like this has gone too far.

    • Groverman62

      01/07/2016 at 4:25pm

      Who? Otako or Blood Lord?

      • A.M. Gibert

        01/07/2016 at 5:25pm

        Otako, mainly. I just want this to be over.

        • Gardeeian

          01/07/2016 at 7:42pm

          It’s like you’re living on another planet or you don’t pay attention to anything.

        • A.M. Gibert

          01/08/2016 at 3:50pm

          Gardeeian, I wasn’t even there when it happened. So excuse me for not knowing what went down. -_-

  • athdlg

    01/07/2016 at 8:42am

    I’m not sure who exactly runs it or who ran it, but I know that Princess made the recent posts.

    • KKKronicMasturhater

      01/09/2016 at 5:37pm

      I run that shit with others nigga, you got some shit you wanna say ? Some idea you want up on that thing, you go to ME or PRINCESS

  • Groverman62

    01/07/2016 at 1:47am

    Im not Blood Lord. I have never been him. I am a completley different user.

    • athdlg

      01/07/2016 at 8:21am

      I don’t think they like to be referred as “Warbear” anymore, only Luka.

    • Bloodlord

      01/07/2016 at 10:37am

      You clearly don’t know Bloodlord or anything that’s going on for that matter.

    • Luka

      01/07/2016 at 4:16pm

      Oh look, you’re still a moron.

  • Groverman62

    01/06/2016 at 11:54pm

    Can you give me a link?

    • Luka

      01/06/2016 at 11:54pm

      Can’t. Comments section is being moderated and all posts with links in them need moderator approval.

      • Luka

        01/06/2016 at 11:55pm

        lookbeyondthetsun . tumblr . com
        except without spaces

        • Groverman62

          01/07/2016 at 12:56am

          Looking at things right now, I have to say that you were being ass to Grids. People move on from their mistakes better when others are not constantly giving them grief about it.

  • Groverman62

    01/06/2016 at 11:50pm

    …What?

  • Groverman62

    01/06/2016 at 11:45pm

    Blood Lord? As in the same moderator for the forums?

  • athdlg

    01/06/2016 at 10:54pm

    It was probably deleted by a moderator.

    • Groverman62

      01/06/2016 at 11:06pm

      So can you tell me whats the issue with the forums is athdlg?

      • Groverman62

        01/06/2016 at 11:08pm

        Also I didnt know that the main site had moderators.

        • athdlg

          01/06/2016 at 11:21pm

          Someone is deleting the comments, like on Riley’s comic section, so I’m assuming there are moderators or at least the people in charge of the comic being updated can delete comments.
          The forums are shut down for good. Thomas is tired of trying to maintain the site and doesn’t care anymore.
          Around the exact same time, Luka had called Griddles out for what had happened in his past and Luka was put on probation (probably for completely derailing the topic). When people were questioning why Luka was put on probation, the site was officially shut down. It was most likely a coincidence, but it is rather suspicious that at the time the site was shut down, this drama occurred. Which is why some are skeptical if Griddles being called out was the final straw.

  • Chamrock

    01/05/2016 at 2:50am

    Dib could never get over her, could he?

  • Possessedmofo

    01/03/2016 at 4:57pm

    Jeez the A.I. suddenly became a shipper.
    And now for some (possibly) plot-advancing dialogue.

    • Ether101

      01/09/2016 at 7:29pm

      Let’s hope Tak’s comment hints at something.

  • 01/03/2016 at 6:30am

    I love this to bits! I agree with computer too… & hey… Hell is heaven with you in it.

  • Kissthethunder

    01/02/2016 at 3:22pm

    Lmfao! I love it. Happy New Year! This is a amazing page, Thanks for posting it! I can’t stop giggling. We all know that earth has gone to hell..

  • B0XofR0X

    01/02/2016 at 2:56pm

    OH MAN! I hope this computer stays with them forever!

  • 01/02/2016 at 11:22am

    So much for this being a simulation. Earth has really gone to hell.

    Hopefully we’ll get some exposition between Tak and the Tallest.

    • Lerianis

      01/03/2016 at 6:45am

      I’d like to know who the ‘others’ are that Tak is so worried about and thought that the Irkin Empire had exterminated.
      Maybe someone race even MORE bloodthirsty and warlike than the Irkens who had pushed them into a corner and then just gone ‘poof’ and vanished, with the Tallest taking credit for ‘exterminating’ them.

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