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  • Archon_370

    01/23/2017 at 12:09am

    Dey* and dat* guys! there’s no h in those words in Jamaican slang

    • Grids

      01/23/2017 at 10:24pm

      Many years ago when I was still editor someone said something positive to me once about Grim’s accent and it’s accuracy. Was that you?

      If so, what are your views now?

  • red bear

    01/14/2017 at 9:38am

    @Sigment, I want to think that this is possible because of above mentioned Terry Pratchett’s Death(s) – He’s above & beyond not only space but time also, for Him there is no past and no future.
    But there is always Rule Of Cool.

  • Sigment

    01/12/2017 at 12:48am

    Am I the only one confused by that one Reaper smoking a cigarette? Not to nitpick, but isn’t this supposed to be in “ye olden” days of Life and Death? How are cigarettes a thing at that point?

    Also, Grids, sorry to hear the offer was pulled back. Would’ve been nice to see someone work to salvage the plot on this one. Disappointing, to say the least.

    • Grids

      01/12/2017 at 8:33am

      Disappointing indeed, partner.

  • Grids

    01/11/2017 at 11:34pm

    Chapter 10 (current chapter) began on July 23 2015. That’s 18 months ago.
    We had Mandy and Grim depart, subsequently leading to Junior and Minnie and Mimi.
    We had Mimi’s vision.
    We had more Junior and Minnie with the traps.
    We had Chi in the bar.
    We had the arrival at not-Cthulu Town and the confrontation baited with Him and Ikra.
    And now Grim is launching into his flashback.
    Not one of the above scenes was concluded with any resolution. It merely jumped ahead to the next.
    This is all one ongoing chapter with no sense of structure.
    In the listed scripts above, I would have ENDED chapter 10 at the point where Chi and Walker conversed. Chapter 10 is fine as a set-up chapter but end it and make Ch 11 about resolutions. Don’t flip-floppity around with no plan in mind.
    What the actual hell?

    • athdlg

      01/12/2017 at 12:50am

      I was thinking of a few different plot points. Regardless, it’s still a lot (especially if combining everyone’s perspective on what could be a plot point) which can lead to confusion and easily forgotten.
      I don’t really mind the length of a chapter as long as it’s not tossing in a lot of info without so much as a connection to the said plot points.
      If these were strongly related, I wouldn’t mind as much. As you stated, it’s pretty nuts in this chapter.

  • athdlg

    01/11/2017 at 10:55pm

    Unless the comic were at a faster pace, it’s not a grand idea to be sending in multiple plot points at once. Even then, it’s a bit much.
    Three would be the max, personally, for a chapter in order to somewhat / completely be resolved, or figured out how to be resolved, in the next chapter. We’re now, debatably, at six to eight plots at once.

  • n00clL3

    01/11/2017 at 6:09pm

    I am surprised that there is not a shadow of Ryuk somewhere in the back round hanging around.

  • 01/11/2017 at 2:22pm

    One of those Reapers looks kinda like Groot

  • Grids

    01/11/2017 at 2:19pm

    HEY EVERYONE!
    Do you remember the bar scene? The one with Chi and Jewel.
    Who??
    Jewel!!
    You know, the bizarre fan character included by bleed at the behest of a devout fan from ’round here without much regard for comic continuity; who promised to affect the comic in a BIG way?
    …do you?
    Well if you don’t, it’s not surprising because the WHOLE SCENE amounted to absolutely zilch. No resolutions, no outcomes, no reasons for why it happened.
    As it turns out, I was given an opportunity to write some scripts based around this scene. Im sure many of you remember how I used to write GT and wanted back in. Well, it wasn’t easy. BeeAre, writer/editor of PPGD, pulled a LOT of strings to get me the chance to write. The catch – the focus had to be on Jewel. Take a silly story decision and make her something profound and meaningful.

    CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

    Except, Bleed proceeded to renege on the offer for reasons that don’t seem to stay consistent. Should have seen this coming however. If Bleed actually kept his promises, I’d still be writing GT today.
    Nonetheless, the scripts were produced. They began from a certain page onward and actually bring the bar scene to a conclusion whilst giving it, Jewel and the strange Walker Junior dude some purpose for being there. And since the scripts are still my property considering they never transitioned into being official plot for the comic, I wish to share them with you.
    filedropper. com/jeweltest
    filedropper. com/walkerandchi
    filedropper. com/jewelinthefuture
    (just remove the spaces, since links make comments get weird here)
    Please read these in the order they’re linked, at your leisure. This is a taste of what might have been, and only a sample of the writing I would have done for GT. I had lots of ideas in place, from the Council and Junior and Minnie and beyond. And as you can also see, Chi Walker and Jewel also have development from these test scripts.
    Unfortunately that ENTIRE scene got ditched mid-stride so none of the potential was reached. It’s a shame. But it’s indicative of the quality of the comic under the present writing team.

    I hope these scripts can show you what MIGHT have been. Enjoy everyone.

    • Grids

      01/11/2017 at 2:23pm

      If I were writing today, this Reaper History Month business would be kept until AFTER some of the gaping plot points were resolved. Why dont we deal with Chi and Junior and even bits of the Council first before launching into ANOTHER exposition-filled flashback?
      The writing on this page is alright; it’s the timing that bothers me. I could do it different. I’m happy to explain how I would.
      Because I’m a smartass *thumbs up, wacky smile*

      • menamai

        01/11/2017 at 4:56pm

        Wow, Grids, that was so good! Why would Bleed change his mind, it’s his loss really. Something like this would have sparked people’s interest in this series again for sure. Can anything still be done about this? Maaaan, what a shame.

        • Grids

          01/11/2017 at 11:26pm

          I’ve heard several reasons, from me apparently causing drama back with Otako Studios (remember THOSE wackjobs?) to being too eager to push a ‘less loli’ approach to GT – which was back in the day where BeeAre and I both wanted Bleed to clean up his act and broaden his horizons.

          Like I said, reasons change and aren’t clear. Unless he somehow changes his mind again, this is a permanent what-if. I agree, it’s a shame.

          • menamai

            01/12/2017 at 4:22am

            Those are petty reasons not to accept quality work. I found absolutely nothing wrong with what you wrote. You’ve adhered to all the rules set by the comic, even used a pop culture reference on Walker’s name, which seems to be a running thing. Chi was acting with ingenuity and quick thinking as opposed to her usual bratty ways, Walker actually had a purpose and Jewel… Wow, that’s exactly what I wanted to read about her. The time traveling way was interesting, not some overused time machine. So if that’s no good, what do they have in mind instead? *sigh*

          • Grids

            01/12/2017 at 8:33am

            Their roughshod writing style suggests there’s nothing ‘in mind’ per se. There’s a sad chance that GT could end up like SB and Zim – ditched to the sidelines and unable to recover.
            Bleed’s email is out there in public if you wanna question him yourself. I’m glad you liked my work. I’m gonna take a wild guess and say that Bleed was too lazy to even bother to read my scripts.
            That’s disrespect to me, to BeeAre who arranged it and to every reader who hopes for the comic’s improvement.

    • Aros001

      01/11/2017 at 7:14pm

      I’m curious what Bleedman’s reasons were for going back on his promise. If you can say because of legal or personal reasons I understand, though I would be interested to know.

    • Aros001

      01/11/2017 at 7:26pm

      Also, just finished reading the scripts and well done man! For someone who seems to not care much for Chi you gave her some pretty good character moments. And I love the bit between Jewel and her aunt. I’m guessing it was slightly inspired by X-Men: Days of Future’s Past, be it the movie or actual comics.

      • Grids

        01/11/2017 at 11:29pm

        Nothing is original anymore – I didn’t really look to Days of Future Past. I actually was looking for a more Star Trek inspired time travel thing, involving potential one-way journeys with permanent ramifications.
        As a potential writer, I need to put my personal views aside when producing.
        I seriously dislike Chi.
        I think Jewel is rubbish.
        Walker is downright nonsense.
        But those were the cards I was dealt and I turned them into something I hope people found workable. I take solace knowing that it wasn’t MY part in the plan that made it fall apart and that I instead did EXACTLY what I was asked to do.
        Just like back in the day with GT Afterbirth, someone who promised to make things happen for the project went back on their word and it became a failure. I plan to NEVER be that failure.

        • Grids

          01/11/2017 at 11:38pm

          Was also inspired by Stephen King’s “22-11-63”.
          The book, not the live adaptation. Seriously, read it. Good stuff.

          • Grids

            01/11/2017 at 11:38pm

            Sorry, 11/22/63. Was using my local date format.
            READ IT!

    • Sp5ism

      01/14/2017 at 9:42pm

      ok Griddles, Look. Imma say this once and for all. Your not writing Grim Tales anymore; Your never going to write Grim Tales again, so get over it. Since almost everyone knows about what happened, and the crimes you were convicted of, I’ll not mention them here. What I will say is that Bleedman has a right to do whatever the Seven fucks he wants with his comic. I come on every week, and all I ever see from you is, “if I were writing the comic I would do this.” Or, “Bleedman is a shitty artist and his editors/writers are horrid and don’t deserve to breath the same air as me.” As if doing that is going to magically grant you a job back. If I were Bleedman or the team here, and I saw you constantly attacking them like this or talking about how bad the comics are, I’d avoid you and never want to talk to you again, let alone hire you to do things for my comics. If you have suck a problem and want to give suggestions, then why not try being an adult and just email bleedman or the editors and see what happens. Or better yet, why not just go find another artist and try making another comic. You have enough talent to go branch off and do your own thing, so why not try that?? Cause the way things are going now, by the time it’s 2020, you’ll still be on this site bitching and moaning about how you used to be the writer and you could write the comic much better.

      Also, another reason I could see why Bleedman dropped you is because you had a problem with Chi. From what I can tell, the guy really likes the character, but when you were the writer/editor, you didn’t want him to even have the character designed in the first place. Now personally, I enjoy the character, but I know a LOT of people here don’t; but as I see it, if your a creator, you have to decide for yourself what you want in a comic and your love for the characters. If you listen to editors all the time and the more negative members of the crowds, you’d just end up hating the comic.

      (ok… enough incoherent rambling. Griddles, Please just stop bitching so much; Go try making your own comic or concept; cause I can tell you now, they don’t want you back here. Stop wasting your time and talent wondering what could have been and just go do your own works.)

      • 01/15/2017 at 12:23am

        Spittin hot fire, are we? I have to admit not everything you said was wrong. Bleedman’s distaste for Grids has been made apparent both a long time in the past and relatively recently. Along with considerable effort with Numa, which no matter how much Bleedman got buttered up, if Grids in person or in name was anywhere near anything, it would be instantly shot down.
        /
        Though I would be remiss in not mentioning that Bleedman didn’t drop Grids because of Chi. Very much to the contrary, Chi’s conception was formulated over a year after Grids was put off the project. The last thing I remember Griddles having any executive opinion on was the “Mimi Facebook Page” thing that happened behind his back, regardless of Mimi being more or less his character at the time of him actually having creative control over the comic.
        /
        For what it’s worth, moving on would be wise, but it’s still his brainchild. Almost all of this comic, all of its foundations and the formulations to the modern story were all set up by him and pretty much JUST him, and Nek has no idea what to do with it. Hearing me bitch about it once probably isn’t as grating as hearing him bitch about it 75 times, but in the end Nek really isn’t a good writer. For instance, have you even seen Minnie speak once in the past 2 years? The correct answer is no. She used to be very eloquent, even when she was turned into a zombie, and she spoke in Shakespearean patterns. Nek, however, doesn’t know Shakespeare, and thusly Minnie has been a mute for the remainder of this comic, and she will remain as such because; say it with me; Nek has no idea how to write her. I’m not saying that as an insult, I’m saying that as a fact.

        • Sp5ism

          01/24/2017 at 12:13am

          I just…. raged for a moment there >__> pent up/suppressed disappointment I suppose (and also, is that icon an undertale ref?)

      • Grids

        01/15/2017 at 3:30am

        You don’t have a full understanding of the timeline of events (as Bird said here this first occurred BEFORE anything IRL got in the way) and I’ve also been quite vague on the events since this concept script was written because in truth there was a LOT going on in order to get it that far.
        The whole emailing Bleed thing happened a long time ago. I’ll reiterate what I said above – an arrangement to create test scripts for Bleed WAS in place, with the help of BeeAre from PPGD. It was only after these scripts – the ones above – were completed that Bleed then turned his back on that pledge.
        More progress was made than you realise. I appreciate your views and expressions.

        • Sp5ism

          01/24/2017 at 12:12am

          “Lol Bleed “did something” with Rook and Kevin; that’s hilarious man.”

          He did. Your just too blinded by your hatred for the guy to really have noticed. Or did you just skip that chapter by mistake. Either way, as I recall, you bitched and moaned the week before when kevin and rook appeared. you were upset that they were just there as a cameo and had no point; then when they became part of the story, you got mad and sh!t on it anyway.

          “– I think the strangest part of what you’re saying is that you expect me to pick up a pen and write a knock-off of the very thing I was originally writing. Are you thinking before you respond to ultra?”

          Just see all of athdlg’s comments that were made. They made the point better than I ever could

      • ULTRADJ

        01/15/2017 at 11:48pm

        @Sp5ism Okay, let me put this in a perspective you can understand with an example. Think of it like this: Bleedman wanted to make a house, so he had the idea for how the house would look like, made a general house plan, and started to work on it. Only after a short while, Bleed realized his limitations, knew it was to hard for him to build a house on his own, and needed an experts help, so he hired a carpenter, Grids, to work out everything else, like building the house, constructing the rooms, decorating it inside and out with furniture and Grids and Bleed both co-owned the house, which is named Grim Tales. While Bleed did all the painting for the house, like he just does the art for the comics, Grids did everything else, like building the house, adding the correct depth to the rooms, making it nice inside and out filling it with the correct furniture and making it appealing on the outside, so when people walk by, they’d be impressed with what they see. So, to sum it all up, Grids did %90 of the work on the house, while Bleed did %10 of it. Grids put his blood, sweat, and tears into a project he called his very own. He kept maintenance on the house, Bleed still co-owning it, for a while. Also to note, Bleed wanted to make his own “enhancements” to the house, such as putting up lolicon wallpaper and putting a life sized loli statue in the garden of the front yard. But our hero Grids will have none of that! He kept the sophistication and integrity of the house for all to enjoy. So, he shot Bleed’s stupid ideas down, and Bleed did not like that at all. But Bleed couldn’t just get rid of him like that, he needed him for the story. Unfortunately, Grids would be gone soon, and Bleed would have his chance to take over and put his shitty ideas into place. Soon after, poor Grids is arrested for insurance fraud or something, I dunno, let’s go with that. All Grids did really was he made a small mistake, a bad deal he made, and unfortunately he had to pay the price with a short about of jail time, two years max. Meanwhile, Bleed is now sole owner of the house he barely built. He sees his chance to initiate his crappy ideas onto the house! He needs a new partner, but not just any partner, he needs somebody to not get in the way of his ideas and just be a yes man. So he goes to a shady building an meets with a complete sleaze ball who also has no experience in building and maintaining a house, NEK, who becomes Bleed’s bitch, and NEK like it. NEK believes he has power over something, something he never had before. So Bleed basically ruins the house by putting up loli shit, banging holes in the walls because he thinks it looks good, placing in cheap ass Dollar Store furniture that’s coming apart to replace the respectable furniture before, splashing paint in rooms without a care in the world because he has no idea what he is doing and is incompetent, and even tearing down the chimney, by literally just ripping it apart and not even fixing the damage, and replacing it with a giant loli statue, all the while, NEK just sits there, his ass on a recliner chair, beer in hand, legs sprawled so you can see his balls, and just gives a thumps up to Bleed and says “Looks good boss, keep up the fantastic work! BUUURP!”
        After Grids is out of his sentence, he wants to go back to the house, his pride and joy, and what he see? A ramshackle run down basically almost destroyed house that looks like it’s been his with multiple tornadoes, looks like complete shit, has a stink like everyone took a dump on it (which is true, because during the “improvements”, NEK decided to take a huge ass dump on a nice carpet Grids laid out before just to spit in his face and spite him), and all around it looks like someone had multiple house parties, if the house parties involved purely destroying everything in sight and peeing and pooping and vomiting everywhere and smearing it on all the walls, ceiling and furniture. Grids is in a state of shock. What the hell happened to his house!? All those years of hard work, gone in a short time. His pride and joy, now beyond a shell of it’s former self. Of course, naturally, Grids is enraged and wants his house back and fix it to it’s former glory. Even though Bleed promised him he could come back to the house and take care of it again once his sentence was served, instead, Bleed gives Grids the middle finger and tells him to fuck off, and NEK moons Grids with his hairy, disgusting, unwashed ass and give Grids a smile that says “You’re not in charge anymore! I am! HAHA!”. So then, Grids tries to use one of Bleeds close friends, Numa, and one of Bleeds colleges, BeeAre to get him back on the house again. And after Bleed leading him on for almost a year, saying he could work on a small part of the house, he goes back on his word again and tells Grids to fuck off, throwing him to the curb for good.
        So after ALL of that, building something from the ground up for years, only to be taken way by two fucking idiots and destroyed beyond recognition, wouldn’t you be somewhat pissed yourself?

        Now, replace house with “comic”, and probably change around some other words so it makes sense, and it’s pretty much the same thing. In my eyes, Grids has every right to complain as long as he wants to, even until the comics end, because his creation, which he worked to hard on for years, YEARS I remind you, to be taken away from him and be turned into a complete joke, a shell of it’s former self, is now gone, vanished. Any resemblance of a good story and unique ideas are completely gone and replaced with this shit. All because of the incompetent Bleedman and his yes man/butt buddy NEK who thinks he has power, and pretty much is the worst editor in the world because he either doesn’t know the English language and how to edit, or is just a pretty face (incredibly life scarring face to be real here) that his only purpose to be Bleed’s bitch. I wouldn’t be surprised if NEK has a collar and leash Bleed gave to him.

        Most of Bleed’s ideas sucks, he needs someone to challenge him, Bleed doesn’t like that, and like the lazy fuck he is, chooses the easiest path of shitiness to completely ruin the story. Bleed doesn’t even read the comments or gives a shit about his readers, so we don’t have to care what he thinks, and NEK is to much of a spineless, dickless, no balls cowards to come down to the comment section and communicate with the readers like BeeAre does, to see the general opinion of the comic and to make things better.

        So, in conclusion, Grids DOES have the right to complain, to an extent, Bleed DOESN’T have the right to ruin the comic, and NEK is a useless bitch.

        • Sp5ism

          01/16/2017 at 12:24am

          LOL. So Bleed draws the comic and you consider that 10 percent of the work?? Yeah yeah, ok. Sure. Drawing the comic with excellent artwork each week takes… what, I’d say 40-60 hours. He does this three to four times a month and has to make sure that everything is right with each comic. While grids, as you say, pretty much sat on his ass and WROTE out storylines and things. Anyone can write a story out and hand it into someone; to me, writing a script is only 10 percent of the work. Having the guy draw everything correctly and letter things right is the other 90 percent. You say most of Bleed’s ideas suck and that he needs someone to challenge him and that he doesn’t read comments and all that, but to that I just say so what. It’s his comic, and he’s drawing it the way he wants to. Why does he have to go online and listens to everyone’s ideas about how he draws HIS comic. If grids thinks it’s SOOOO SOO easy to just create a comic, then why not go and do it. Write a script for a new grim tales story, go find a comic book artist, pay him to draw it and see where things go from there. Or just draw it yourself, cause honestly, this coming on every week and talking about how I could have done it better if I was writing it ain’t working for the guy

          • Grids

            01/16/2017 at 3:27am

            Who does most of the work on PPGD do you think?

          • ULTRADJ

            01/16/2017 at 7:28pm

            @Sp5ism Are you an artist? Do you know how long Bleed actually takes to make pages? He’s been doing this for what, 10-15 years? And I’m just talking about the comics, he could’ve been doing art longer. He isn’t the best artist, believe me, but he should have the groove and flow of art by now, so it shouldn’t be problem.
            .
            Anyone can write a story? Really? I mean, sure anyone can write a story, but not everyone can write a GOOD one. People have written really shitty stories all over the internet and in books. You act like anyone can write out the complexities, characters, story lines, and everything else and in between in one night. And I can tell you, what Grids wrote, doesn’t even come CLOSE to %10 of the work on the comic. If you know what you’re doing, drawing it out should be no problem at all, and Bleed’s been doing this for a long while now.
            .
            Plus, it’s not as easy to write scripts as you apparently think it is. You need to storyboard the story, meaning he has to instruct each pages layout, and be very specific on to what exactly the artist has to draw, panel to panel. The writer has to instruct the artist on what to draw and how to draw it, for every single page until the comic is done, and if the story is a long one, it’ll be a long time if it can be finished, like PPGD and GT. Plus, if the writer storyboards a page, but the artist, Bleed, still draws his own shit the way he wants to anyway, it’s becomes even MORE work for the writer to fix it and tries to make sense of sometimes nonsense, all because the artist is impatient. If you can even imagine, it’s incredibly frustrating.
            .
            Bleed needs to be challenged and debated on ideas. Otherwise we get the shit show we have now. So if you want even the slightest entertainment from the comic, Bleed needs to know his limitations, which is he can never create a good story, just passable enough art.
            .
            Finding an artist is not easy, believe me, and paying one is even harder, because you need money. And I’m pretty sure Grids knows it’s not easy to create a comic, I don’t know where you got that idea. What’s hard is to find someone not stubborn and stupid to work with, ergo Bleedman.
            .
            And like I said before, Grids has every right to complain. Don’t like it? Tough shit. If Grids wants to complain, it’s not going anywhere. I suggest you ignore it, or don’t and be bitter.

        • Sp5ism

          01/17/2017 at 10:38am

          ” Are you an artist? Do you know how long Bleed actually takes to make pages?” Yes, I am an artist actually, and though I don’t know how long it takes Bleed to make pages, I know it isn’t something that takes an hour or two to do.

          “He’s been doing this for what, 10-15 years? And I’m just talking about the comics, he could’ve been doing art longer. He isn’t the best artist, believe me, but he should have the groove and flow of art by now, so it shouldn’t be problem” Just because you’ve been doing artwork for 10-15 years doesn’t mean that you can just automatically draw something in a fast amount of time. It’s not like playing video games where you get better and more response time the more you play. Since art and styles are always changing, you might run into snags here or there when trying to draw something. From what I see, Bleed ALWAYS has quality stuff and doesn’t half-ass things. He always does shading and bg’s and interesting environments. Doing all of that and placing things isn’t an easy task to do, so if you you to just say, ‘Oh, he should just get it by now and have a flow’ is a bit insulting for people that actually draw and write comics for a living

          “Anyone can write a story? Really? I mean, sure anyone can write a story, but not everyone can write a GOOD one. People have written really shitty stories all over the internet and in books. You act like anyone can write out the complexities, characters, story lines, and everything else and in between in one night. And I can tell you, what Grids wrote, doesn’t even come CLOSE to %10 of the work on the comic. If you know what you’re doing, drawing it out should be no problem at all, and Bleed’s been doing this for a long while now.”

          And once more, you insult the artist like so. If it’s so easy, then why doesn’t Grids just pick up a pen and write his own version of grim tales? If it’s nothing to draw, then why does he keep bitching and moaning about losing his writing job instead of creating something for himself. If I were in his shoes, then I would just cut all ties to grim tales and try doing something for myself instead of clinging too what could have been and former glory.

          “Plus, it’s not as easy to write scripts as you apparently think it is. You need to storyboard the story, meaning he has to instruct each pages layout, and be very specific on to what exactly the artist has to draw, panel to panel. The writer has to instruct the artist on what to draw and how to draw it, for every single page until the comic is done, and if the story is a long one, it’ll be a long time if it can be finished, like PPGD and GT.”

          Yeah, storyboarding and writing ect. Isn’t easy, but it’s also not 90 percent of the comic like you said. All the writer does is create sketches, writes dialogue, and comes up with the sotrylines. If we go back to your house analogy, then grids essentially made the plans, scoped the house out, and found a location to draw things out. Bleed actually built the house, did the painting, construction, ect.

          “Plus, if the writer storyboards a page, but the artist, Bleed, still draws his own shit the way he wants to anyway, it’s becomes even MORE work for the writer to fix it and tries to make sense of sometimes nonsense, all because the artist is impatient. If you can even imagine, it’s incredibly frustrating.”

          Yes, because the story of comics has always been the writer and artist completely agreeing on every single point and never going out on a limb and doing things for themselves. If it was soo soo hard to work for bleed, then grids should have just quit. It’s not the job of the writer to grind an ax and hold it over the artists head. The job of keeping the artist in check is the editor.

          ” Bleed needs to be challenged and debated on ideas. Otherwise we get the shit show we have now. So if you want even the slightest entertainment from the comic, Bleed needs to know his limitations, which is he can never create a good story, just passable enough art.”

          Bleed needs to be challenged… so I ask, why? What do you have against a guy just having fun and writing the comic the way he wants to? If you have such an issue with it, then just stop reading for a few months. I recently just got back and actually read through about 14 months worth of comic (and I actually enjoyed it! I’m gonna read PPGD next week since I stopped reading it after they introduced that atomic betty storyline with the android.) Also, the art is excellent and stylish in my opinion. Art like this is not something just anybody can do. You can say the story is bad, but it’s really not horrible. I remember when Grids bitched about Kevin and Rook being there, and then the next week, when bleed did something with them, he still found something to bitch about. He’s always gonna complain about the comic because he’s not writing it anymore.

          “Finding an artist is not easy, believe me, and paying one is even harder, because you need money.”

          Oh! well here’s an idea.. why not try making a site to create a comic, like this one for instance! But you kinda contradicted yourself there. Earlier you said that the comic is easy to draw and that bleed should have no problem doing it, but then whey I turned it back around, you suddenly go back and say, “Well, comic artists aren’t easy to find!! and they cost a lot too!! I mean bleedman is a shitty artist that has barely passable art, but I can’t think of anyone better that could draw his comic.’

          ” And like I said before, Grids has every right to complain. Don’t like it? Tough shit. If Grids wants to complain, it’s not going anywhere. I suggest you ignore it, or don’t and be bitter.”

          Yes, he has a right co complain, but I also have a right to complain and call grids out on his BS when I see it every week. I’m not ignoring it or going anywhere either

          • Grids

            01/17/2017 at 1:57pm

            Lol Bleed “did something” with Rook and Kevin; that’s hilarious man.

            I think the strangest part of what you’re saying is that you expect me to pick up a pen and write a knock-off of the very thing I was originally writing. Are you thinking before you respond to ultra?

          • athdlg

            01/17/2017 at 3:39pm

            @GRIDS
            They’re saying you /could/ pick up a pen and write stories from Grim Tales on how you originally imagined it instead of complaining. Let your frustration out elsewhere.
            What they actually expect you to do, or rather what they believe you should do, is to cut ties with Grim Tales and create original material/new fanfiction.

          • Grids

            01/17/2017 at 7:28pm

            The scripts I linked above are a prime example of my writing in GrimTales context. We have come full circle.

          • athdlg

            01/17/2017 at 8:02pm

            @GRIDS
            They mean to continue the story without trying desperately to try and get the said ideas/writings into Grim Tales, without complaining (which is why they’d want you to write, so you don’t complain).
            These writings are because of the opportunity to write and, to their assumption, cling to your past–which were unfortunately soiled. SP5ISM is pretty much saying, “I knew this is what would happen” and stating that you shouldn’t even try to get your position back anymore. Rather, create the stories originally intended to relieve the grief in your works being transformed–or, the other option SP5ISM says you should be doing rather than using time on writing anything Grim Tales, cut all ties with Grim Tales.

          • Grids

            01/17/2017 at 9:44pm

            Yet again you miss the point and get it wrong.
            The scripts were no “desperate attempt” – they were a means agreed upon by several people (myself, Bleed, BeeAre and the originator of Jewel which was the character I was to centre these scripts around). There was a focus to the scripts imposed. If this were some bland attempt to “cling to the past” as you put it, I would not have focused on the characters presently dragging the comic down but rather that which I had already built up. That would have been the case if this was motivated by ego as you seem to think it is.

            As far as Grim Tales, I do not write about it unless tasked with it. I completed said task. Simple as that.

          • athdlg

            01/17/2017 at 11:52pm

            You seem to think the reply was as if I thought all of those things about you.
            The reply was in translation to what SP5ISM was stating in several replies. “Desperately” was an emotional word to connect to their meaning for you to be “clinging to your past.” The entirety of the reply was to let you understand that SP5ISM believes you should be cutting ties with Grim Tales rather than continue to do anything with it. They also believe that if continuing the stories is what gets you to stop complaining. They’d rather you do that than continue to complain in the comments.
            I can only speculate that they, and other individuals, believe that you are “desperate” and try to “cling to the past” because of the continuous comments placed on Bleedman’s comics (other than PPGD which has obvious favoritism) complaining, giving news on something about that comic that bothers you, bringing up that you were the previous editor countless times, and have openly been trying to get back as the writer by attempting to get help from whoever is capable of getting close to Bleedman in order to convince him. A person can cling to the past and have various ways of doing it. Changing to what the item/person/etc once was is one method.

          • ULTRADJ

            01/21/2017 at 1:04am

            @Sp5ism Okay, this is getting ridiculous, and very long winded, so let me make this as simple as I possibly can for you to understand. Bleed is not incredibly experienced, but is experienced enough to handle his art for the comics

            Grids did most of the work, period. Bleed only provided art, period.

            Grids tried to keep Bleed in check, but Bleed is a loose cannon. A shitty, unworkable, stubborn loose cannon.

            I said it should be easier for Bleed to draw the comic because he has years of experience with art after years of doing it. But there are better artists than him, and it’s not easy to find one to work with you, due to if they are busy in real life or have other commitment. And I never said ” but I can’t think of anyone better that could draw his comic”. I don’t see any contradiction. You’re just putting words in my mouth to make up a contradiction.

            Grids can complain, is going to and can as long as he wants. You can too, but he, or anyone else, won’t stop either. So YOU don’t tell people to stop if you will do the same thing with your BS.

        • Sp5ism

          01/24/2017 at 12:07am

          @Sp5ism – Grids did most of the work, period. Bleed only provided art, period.

          If grids did most of the work, then he’d still be writing the comic. Or, here’s another point to consider; Saying Grids did “most of the work” Is like someone writing a script for a movie or a tv show or even an anime, and then ignoring the voice actors, cameramen, and editors and just giving the guy that wrote the script all the credit. It makes you look bad when you say stuff like that.

          – Grids tried to keep Bleed in check, but Bleed is a loose cannon. A shitty, unworkable, stubborn loose cannon.

          If he was such a loose cannon and hard to work with, then WHY on earth would grids keep coming back to try and get back on the comic?? I would think that if he was so unhappy and sick of seeing things changed, then he would just quit and try working on his own thing.

          – I said it should be easier for Bleed to draw the comic because he has years of experience with art after years of doing it. But there are better artists than him, and it’s not easy to find one to work with you, due to if they are busy in real life or have other commitment.

          Your still implying that it should just be easy to draw a comic. From what I can tell, your not really and artist and don’t know how processes work

          And I never said ” but I can’t think of anyone better that could draw his comic”.

          You didn’t say that, but you certainly implied it.

          I don’t see any contradiction. You’re just putting words in my mouth to make up a contradiction.

          Actually, I’m not really. You said before that Bleed sucks as an artist and that there are better artists and that they could draw the comic, but then in the same breath said that it’s hard to find a good artist and that it would cost a lot.

          – Grids can complain, is going to and can as long as he wants. You can too, but he, or anyone else, won’t stop either. So YOU don’t tell people to stop if you will do the same thing with your BS.

          LOL. He can complain all he wants; he doesn’t have to stop. I was just pointing out how it won’t get him anywhere if he does, I was just suggesting he do something else with his time and energy instead of bitching to a guy about a comic he wants back in on. I also don’t think it’s right for him to drag his friends in and try to convince/make them get him back on the comic when it’s not something Bleed wants anymore.

    • Lord Razer

      02/08/2017 at 1:14am

      why not make your own grim tales story on fan fiction or something. I’m not saying this to be rude, I’m just really curious on your ideas and how they would be different from this one and would like to read your thing.

  • SirBruno95

    01/11/2017 at 5:48am

    Weird. No smart remark at the end of the page. Man, this page is really awesome. I don’t think people give Bleedman enough credit for making this kind of pages.

  • Mr.Duns

    01/10/2017 at 4:26pm

    oh i love how this chapter explains nothing! who are these entities that held the strings of life? where did they come from? who are the celestialsapiens if they are actually a thing?
    if you are going to set off new lore to your comic it should at least have more depth than this. i know is to soon to say this but it still stands.

    • Santessen

      01/10/2017 at 6:30pm

      The Celestialsapiens are from Ben 10. They’re what race Alien X is.

      • 01/10/2017 at 6:44pm

        They also have the power to shape Reality in any degree they want to pleased with.

        • Hellfire

          02/10/2017 at 1:19am

          Yea the are also beings of constant debate. They have all the power in the universe but can’t come to a conclusion on what to do with it.

      • Mr.Duns

        01/13/2017 at 4:58pm

        thanks! that is one question out of the way.

    • Grids

      01/10/2017 at 7:57pm

      I think more glaring is the fact we now have moved onto another plot point without ANY resolution to previous ones.
      Junior and Minnie
      The bar scene with Chi
      The gathering of figureheads for the council
      Now this.
      It’s all so disjointed and sloppy.

  • TheAngryEngineer

    01/10/2017 at 3:03pm

    Is that a “Groot” Reaper I see? 🙂

  • Aros001

    01/10/2017 at 1:07pm

    I love this world building. I imagine that The Great Divide that Grim mentioned to Mandy a while back has something to do with what happened to all these other Reapers.

  • Biostar

    01/10/2017 at 12:16pm

    I’m actually interested in the comic again. That hasn’t happened in a long time.

    • Aros001

      01/10/2017 at 1:09pm

      I imagine that’s because we’re being allowed to focus on other main characters now instead of just Chi. I think Chi’s a fine character but she can’t carry the story all on her own and there was only so far we could progress the story by following just her.

  • Adviel

    01/10/2017 at 10:13am

    Love the Loli reaper. I imagine she is Bleeds worst nightmare.

    • hypnobubbles

      01/11/2017 at 9:26am

      Loli Reaper reminds me of Hello Kitty

  • Santessen

    01/10/2017 at 9:27am

    Well, if I recall the Mars Reaper was doing something like that, knocking off the other planetary reapers and taking their scythes.

    And I’m sort of sorry Bleed decided to have the reapers playing cards instead of dice, He missed a nice Death Note reference (they were using dice, right?).

    • 5iou5

      01/10/2017 at 5:56pm

      you notice that too and I think they were playing with skulls as dice

    • Shadow Knight Destroyer

      01/10/2017 at 7:23pm

      Before Mars, I think there has too be something before even death or the celestial’s. Basically I feel something is missing.

    • hypnobubbles

      01/11/2017 at 9:25am

      I think it was dice, ’cause it’s rolling the bones

  • Shadow Knight Destroyer

    01/10/2017 at 8:10am

    Knew there were different planet reapers such as Mars and Uranus but not different species. Wonder if there was something killing off the reapers, maybe something far worse then anything they’ve ever seen?

  • MatDrac

    01/10/2017 at 6:53am

    I already imagine the next page, all of Reapers that we know of different series! 🙂

  • Santessen

    01/10/2017 at 6:52am

    Actually that was already canon to the show. In one episode we meant the Reaper of Mars (Grim is apparently only in charge of Earth)

    And the whole thing is, of course very Terry Pratchett-y (well Terry Pratchett in Reaper Man). Wouldn’t surprise me if the Death of Rats made an appearance.

    • red bear

      01/10/2017 at 10:12am

      Glad to see I’m not the only one who thought of good old Terry Pratchett Deaths.
      And besides obvious Desu Noto reference, there is one to Naruto – that 3-bladed scythe (not a Naruto fan, just happens to know).
      Also – no post comments from Nek or Bleedman?

      • Santessen

        01/10/2017 at 6:35pm

        Yeah I noticed that too. In fact, wouldn’t it be fun if that reaper actually WAS Jashin. We have no idea what he looks like, after all, and a reaper would be a pretty good description of a being demanding complete death and destruction (especially if it turns out that one of the things that is going to happen is some of the reapers going mad.)

  • bendoublebeta123

    01/10/2017 at 5:17am

    Really intresting, who knew there were more reapers at the time. It’s always nice having some character back story from time to time🤔🤔

  • DehanM

    01/10/2017 at 4:01am

    ha so there was more then one reaper at a time interesting, I also love mandy commentary on this

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