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bleedman

05/04/2017

NEK: Guess sis is getting serious, but so is Jr.

  • Dimenya

    07/16/2017 at 12:44am

    none can truly be prepared for war it is a twisted and unsuspecting game where only the truly resilient can survive i guess you could say war…war never changes ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • Supplice

    06/30/2017 at 8:59pm

    That product placement though

  • Whazzat

    05/09/2017 at 10:26pm

    Personally I couldn’t care less about this comic anymore, I’m still here so I could know those plot points to be revealed (e.g. Jr.’s real father, Minnie’s true purpose, Jewel etc) and also the rather display of plot jumping to plot jumping is quite disgruntling and it makes me dizzy.

    Back in the days I really like this comic, simple with dark undertones (also I like it when comics don’t have those wall of words because hey, isn’t pictures made to avoid the text? Like in manga, being wordy is clearly avoided since the story’s all in the pictures)

    Anyway I came here so I could comment that yes, Minnie and Jr. have lost the touch of their characters. I like the plot where Minnie is a sweet girl with a bit of an evil side but don’t you think she had stoop low? Also Jr. is an idiot I get it but he do care and he realized his sister’s importance and tries to reconciliate with her which resulted their bonding with each other and that was only interrupted by one thing; Mimi.

    I get that Minnie is jealous but that doesn’t deter the fact that indeed she just went through hell (by her literally ripped to shreds) just to protect her big brother and would do anything for him. Now she only looks like she’s mimmicking her mother (she also lost touch with her archaic speech it seems) and was giving Jr. the cold shoulder but she should understand the feeling of gazing at someone from afar (PINING) so she should understand what Jr.’s coming through.

    Mimi is Jr.’s first real friend aside from Minnie whom he’s jealous at first and the one who saved him (albeit so she can protect Jeff) from Him and the one he shows interest to.

    From the first pages/chapters of this comic it is shown that Jr. is shunned and treated as low of the low, a crybaby and a Mama’s boy so he could only kept at it by being jealous of Minnie showing off and not realizing her true feelings (which the backstory is lacking of) and he finally felt apreciated when he met Jeff and Mimi.

    Now Jr. haven’t even forgotten Minnie, remember he tried to offer a peace offering to Minnie but she just stomped on it and walk away on cold tracks (that muffin).

    Where their personality diverges also the effing comic too. The constant switch of events (Chi’s at a bar with demongo and Jewel, a hybrid of Ember and Walker showed up, Mandy, Grim, Him and Aki in the council, the backstory of death) was hard to keep track on. The story’s also rocky in my own opinion.

    So yeah, the comic was far more greater in those first chapters until after WHAM (also AfterBirth is also a great continuation too tho).

    Also, this is just a theory but I think Jr. can actually bear kids because he had Minnie’s nergalling (what use of it if he can make any parts he want too hmm..) and I think I read one comic back in deviantart about this premise where he had a kid through Minnie and Mimi (wtf, I know they’re in hell but still he’s showing some of his Mandyness) I think it’s called Grim Tales New Generations and the first chapter isn’t even done but the plot is interesting, kinda?

    Anyways, I don’t think I’ll remember half of what I’ve babbled on here so I guess I should write some character studies first? xD

  • 16hreiher

    05/09/2017 at 1:45pm

    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang, those stares.
    who will blink first?

  • unknownname1206

    05/08/2017 at 2:04am

    I’ve been thinking about Minnie’s feelings for Junior ever since HIM revealed them to us. Her soul is corrupted with the Deadly Sin of Lust, for Junior; obviously, incest is frowned upon in most societies. However; since I’ve been thinking about it, I honestly don’t see a problem with it when Minnie and Junior are concerned, and here’s why: One, they are only half-siblings. Obviously that doesn’t fix EVERYTHING, but only being HALF-related is better than being COMPLETELY-related. Two, they are both DEAD; Junior is a skeleton, and since Minnie lost her powers she is literally a Zombie. I think any actual blood-relation they had is gone; biologically, they aren’t really “related” anymore. Spiritually, they are but that’s a different argument. Third and finally, Junior literally CAN’T have sex! Like, it’s been stated in the comic; and it is a major plot-point that Grim and Junior cannot have sex and/or create children. Therefore, even if Minnie and Junior were to actually perform Incest, it wouldn’t even be a problem because they can’t actually have sex. The most Lewd thing they could do is sleep in the same bed together, and siblings do that all the time anyway. They could kiss, sure, but again I don’t think any of the other characters would really care. Speaking of which, what’s the worst that’s going to happen even if they DID have sex? They go to hell? They already LIVE THERE. It’s not like their lives could get much worse; their mother is MANDY for Christ’s sake. Maybe I’m thinking about this too hard, but if I were Junior I really wouldn’t care if Minnie loved me that way or not and to be honest I would probably be on board with it.

    TL;DR, Minnie and Junior should hook up because there is nothing morally, or physically wrong with it.

    • Horohoro

      05/08/2017 at 5:43pm

      Actually, due to the whole Nergal thing, he actually could have sex. It’s honestly a very complicated subject…

      • unknownname1206

        05/08/2017 at 8:51pm

        The Nergal allows him to have sex? I know the Negal is an animal of its own, but does that allow him to perform sex? He’s still a Grim Reaper after all; creating life is the opposite to what his job is. Even if he say, use the Nergal itself to have sex, would that actually make a girl pregnant? It’s not like the Nergal is designed for making sperm.

    • Shadow Knight Destroyer

      05/08/2017 at 6:30pm

      I’m with you on this dude, I find there relationship to be very interesting and it will be even more so if it continues too grow. Wouldn’t mind Junior ending up with her, maybe even Mimi, as well as Chi too, ahaha. They are in hell right now so anything should go.

  • StevensDs

    05/07/2017 at 8:57pm

    So…
    They like to order stuff from Target through UPS. Nice little details xD

  • 05/06/2017 at 1:25pm

    Finally, they get to talk this out but I’m hoping this doesn’t lead to fight, cause I think Jr would kill Minnie.

    • Lolwutpear_126

      05/06/2017 at 1:43pm

      I’d think Minnie has some more tricks up her sleeve she can use against Junior. You know why? Because she actually invested time and effort into learning skills instead of moping around full of jealousy like that spineless twat of a brother of hers.

    • Glyphayel

      05/07/2017 at 9:46am

      Eeeeh, not so sure about that. Aside with his powers, Jr. has next to no fighting experience, whereas Minnie was trained to be as mature as she’s being right now.

      • 05/09/2017 at 5:53pm

        True but Jr has some skill with a scythe and he, unlike Minnie, respects his nergal side. They’re like brothers and they have each others backs.

  • DehanM

    05/06/2017 at 11:22am

    Why does everyone think Minnie will kick Jr ass ? It really pisses me off that everyone so scared of Minnie. Sure Minnie is smarter and ruthless but if Jr fights for real it SHOULD be a curb stomp battle. I’d love to see that little bitch get taken down a peg, especially if it’s Jr that does it.

    • Lolwutpear_126

      05/06/2017 at 1:42pm

      How many times do I still need to repeat how it was MINNIE who let herself get WILLINGLY TORN APART for her brother? She gave up part of herself for him, her nergal powers, and all he did was add some dumb green decorations to his hoodie with it, he magicked a green emo horse and even a tank with it. Instead of using it what it was originally intended for: as a weapon to use when one is in serious danger. I SERIOUSLY recommend some people to reread the story again from the very beginning, because right now they’re rooting for an absolute immature and selfish idiot like Junior.

      • Skully

        05/07/2017 at 10:12pm

        I have to correct you there.
        Minnie did not WILLINGLY get herself torn apart for Jr. It was a sneak attack on Oogie Boogie’s part and she wanted /nothing/ to do with it. It only happened because Oogie got lucky. (You could say it was Junior’s fault but honestly look at the situation what could he have done?)

        Are we going to ignore the fact that she still has some control over the Nergal powers? (Look at ‘What about Mimi’)

    • Glyphayel

      05/07/2017 at 9:44am

      Yeah, uh, I gotta agree with Pear there, you should instead be “pissed off” that everyone forgets how Jr. got his powers in the first place, and the sacrifices Minnie went through for him to get them. All this for what? For him to start focusing on Minni and basically forgetting his sister along the way – to his defence, Minnie hasn’t exactly been the most considerate person of all time, especially now, but what she’s done still matters.

      So yeah, uh, no. Jr. needs a lesson. And Minnie’s most definitely mroe competent than he is. People reeeeeeally DO need to re-read the beginning of this comic.

      • Horohoro

        05/08/2017 at 5:41pm

        So we’re just going to ignore the fact that he made an active effort to involve her, only to be shot down with enough bite to year apart the Titanic? And her very recent attempt on Mimi’s life?

      • Miscellaneous

        05/10/2017 at 11:01pm

        glyphs right people should reread the comic. like how minnie tried to rape him. and how we see right after she tried to kill him she played it all off and pulled her shakesperian act which if you actually read the comic youd know is an act.

  • Mavisvermillion

    05/06/2017 at 1:28am

    Don’t underestimate Junior so quickly. He is stronger than Minnie, he just shows the restraint and humanity that Minnie lacks. Junior’s bravery speaks a lot for him. Minnie loves Junior a lot, but would never risk standing up to Mandy. Yet, Junior did. Got his butt kicked, but can’t blame him for trying. Everyone in that family except for Grim underestimates Junior, but even Mandy saw how he grew.

    • Shadow Knight Destroyer

      05/06/2017 at 6:36am

      Junior has yet too show what he’s got, but seeing those two fight may end in Junior’s victory since Minnie most likely shares one part with Mandy the most “Pride” leaving her too not expect Junior too be stronger then she thought he was and win.

    • Stillborn

      05/06/2017 at 7:42am

      Junior may be stronger than Minnie, but Minnie is a Mandy clone and she has Bleed’s favour and plot armor, so she will win.

      • Shadow Knight Destroyer

        05/06/2017 at 8:00am

        Never once heard him say he has his favorite or possess plot armor.

        • Shadow Knight Destroyer

          05/06/2017 at 8:01am

          Sorry, meant too say

          I never heard him ever state that she has his favor or possesses plot armor.

  • Ninjanoto

    05/06/2017 at 1:28am

    cool page cant wait for more, unlike others i will just wait for this part of the story to resolve itself and see what it leads to and not moan about a speech pattern

  • miracle2415

    05/05/2017 at 10:24pm

    I honestly can’t take Jr. seriously. He was a complete idiotic loser to me since the start. I know he’s a kid, so I overlooked his idiocy, but now that’s he’s trying to be an adult in front of Minnie who acts older than her age is a complete joke to me. Especially when war is about to break out, and Minnie had shown before to be far more competent in leading an army. Even if Jr snaps and unleashes his inner Mandy, I’m just going to laugh.

    • Lolwutpear_126

      05/06/2017 at 1:38pm

      Nobody is ever prepared for a war. Junior is just acting tough here. He absolutely has no idea. See, this is why I dislike those ‘I want to change the world’ kind of characters in comics so much. Their naivety just ends up being an annoyance to other, more aware and mature characters.

  • Shadow Knight Destroyer

    05/05/2017 at 9:06am

    Even Junior has a breaking point of how much he can handle and I wouldn’t recommend Minnie continually egging him on or else he may snap and act just like his mother….except having a nergaling and maybe awaken his Reaper powers….

  • JACKEL

    05/05/2017 at 7:07am

    Truth be told she could actually have a dark side that she’s been hiding and keeping locked away like me I’m 18 about to be 19 and I’ve been bottling up all my anger hatred and rage since I was 7 years old to the point where my mood can easily change form happy sad depressed or emotionless to angry and really want to punch someone but I will walk away and punch an object like a wall a window a door or a tree instead but if someone really pisses me off to the point where I snap my alter-ego who was born form all my anger hatred and rage that I’ve been bottling up over the years will take control and punch them and sometimes worse to the point where he cracks or breaks their bones and I will regain control a minute or two after and not remember a thing that happened

    • Lolwutpear_126

      05/06/2017 at 1:35pm

      …And you probably consider yourself ‘edgy’ and ‘cool’ because of all your psychological problems. Hint hint: it’s not. Go see a psychologist, you boring dolt.

      • 05/22/2017 at 5:31pm

        Hello Miss pear. Also you may have a point about Jackel’s condition but it not wise to say a person’s faults if they themselves know that they have them -_-. It kinda mocks the person knows that they have them but getting talked down by others to go fix them can be (in itself) a reverse kys comment but still hurts as if it was a real one. No offense to you or anyone here just tell a common truth i guess?

  • Horohoro

    05/05/2017 at 5:41am

    …Why does this tempt me?

  • KotoKoi13

    05/05/2017 at 3:28am

    Thank you Bleedman! Thank you for your hard work in making your comics. I can only imagine how lengthy the process must be to make (in my opinion) great quality comics. Please do continue 🙂

  • ULTRADJ

    05/04/2017 at 11:48pm

    This is getting old now. I mean, it’s jumping from plot point to plot point so much it’s getting boring.

  • 4N1M3 FR34K

    05/04/2017 at 11:03pm

    I’m sure I’m not the only one here who wishes Bleed would upload these pages sooner. If only Happy Cat alarm clocks were real…

    • 4N1M3 FR34K

      05/04/2017 at 11:47pm

      Okay, now I see why it took so long. It was a double whammy uploading. With this kind of timing, this circumstance is totally understandable. Please excuse my herp derp.

  • Aros001

    05/04/2017 at 10:30pm

    Placement of the speech balloons in the first panel is a bit weird, as they tend to traditionally be read from top down, not right side conversation then left side conversation but otherwise not a bad page. Funny enough I do think there is a good point in Mandy not letting Pain and the guards not interfere. Storytelling wise it means we get less interruptions between the two and more of them actually interacting, which is what we’ve been waiting for for a while now. Character wise it mean the two finally have to address the changes around them and their current feelings about each other. Kind of interesting that it’s Minnie who’s hostile towards him now and Junior’s the one who wants to make things better, which is quite a reversal from the story’s beginning.

  • Aros001

    05/04/2017 at 10:22pm

    So does anyone want to talk about anything besides the speech pattern? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a big deal that it’s gone but does anyone have anything more to say about the new page other than that?

    • 4N1M3 FR34K

      05/04/2017 at 10:55pm

      How about that the tension between the siblings is REALLY starting to get EXTRA THICC.

      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/arFEKKb8FAk/hqdefault.jpg

    • Glyphayel

      05/07/2017 at 9:39am

      Well not really no, because there’s really not anything worth to talk about in this page. Minnie losing her speech pattern is bascially destroying her personlity further, and everything else that happens is centered around the dispute – which her speech pattern’s a big part of, given that that was a, well, recognizable threat she has.
      And now everyone’s acting like everything’s fine. I mean heck, Jr. could’ve just adress the issue to fix this, like “You speak differently, what happened to you?” or something. It’s… kind of distracting, really.

  • Grids

    05/04/2017 at 9:59pm

    Bye bye speech pattern. ”Twas laziness that befell you…

  • Skully

    05/04/2017 at 9:26pm

    So SHE DID completely lose her speech pattern.
    I feel the need to point out when Minnie lost her speech pattern, she was absolutely /filled/ with rage due to HIM’s influence.
    Minnie isn’t exactly full of rage here. She’s just. Cold.
    Well actually it’s hard to tell since her personality has become so flat I could take her and make origami out of her, and that origami would have more personality and character than she has at the moment.

    • Biostar

      05/04/2017 at 10:06pm

      There’s such thing as a cold rage. I’m just hoping it’s a temporary change. I’m not hip with this “Minnie was always a mean bitch” they’re trying to sell now.

      • Skully

        05/05/2017 at 12:57am

        Do you really get the “cold rage” vibe from her though?
        ‘Cold bitch’ is what I’m seeing more of. Not really.. cold rage.
        I do agree though, I’m also not a fan of “oohh minnie was always a bitch ooooo”

        • SirBruno95

          05/05/2017 at 6:17am

          Seriusly. It even contradics canon. How can someone who aparently kept torturing a single soul the way she suposedly did could be considered a pure soul worthy of Heaven? That angel guy said that she was the only light on that hellholethey called home because of how pure she was. If she even had a slice of the malice the comic is depicting right now, she wouldn’t had been located by said angel due to how corrupt she and the rest of the world she was in were.

          • Stillborn

            05/06/2017 at 7:38am

            It is said later in the story that she hid her darkness so well that even angels couldn’t detect it. So yeah. She managed to cheat haven’s judge.

          • Lerianis

            05/06/2017 at 5:49pm

            Stillborn hits the nail on the head. Minnie’s darkness was so hidden and she denied it so well that even Angels could not detect it.

          • Misaki

            05/08/2017 at 1:35am

            She hid not only her darkness and Mandy-inherited malice from Heaven, but also her “Lust” for Junior, remember?

          • Miscellaneous

            05/09/2017 at 11:24pm

            sorry for double post comments are being reviewed didn’t notice

          • 05/22/2017 at 5:27pm

            You all have the right mindset and are correct. The angel also said (adding to Misaki’s part if that user does not mind)that as long as you have feelings for your brother like that, you will not be permitted to enter Heaven. So that means Judgement knew that Minnie had “those” feelings for Jr but still knew she was a good soul otherwise -_-.This is interesting and yes i been through it all this is SNAFU(nothing wholesome stays the same in a story of twists and turns).

    • Misaki

      05/08/2017 at 1:36am

      As for her speech pattern, she’s dropped the “proper etiquette” speech from Helga, but… I do think she’s sounding more and more like mother dearest~

  • painted lord

    05/04/2017 at 9:21pm

    damn mini throwing down major shade

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