Aid or InvadeInvader Zim: Manifest Doom


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bleedman

01/02/2016

I was hoping to post a new PPGD to start off the new year but oh well.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

  • Gameroverdose

    07/31/2016 at 11:16pm

    This is so interesting and good pictures too

  • silentknife

    05/30/2016 at 2:28pm

    So. Zim is gone for good?
    F*ck this comic

  • BlueLuxning

    01/14/2016 at 6:31am

    What the hell did I just miss

  • Lolwutpear_126

    01/12/2016 at 11:45am

    This is all quite amusing, I must say.

    Poor, poor humanity.

    • A.M. Gibert

      01/12/2016 at 5:24pm

      Amusing and headache-inducing.

  • Bubbafett

    01/10/2016 at 7:13pm

    Woah sorry Silver. I made a post agreeing with you on many issues and discussing that we found common ground on but apparently it was deleted o.O

    • Birdofterror

      01/10/2016 at 7:41pm

      Yeah, I noticed a lot of responses got deleted from here, but the rhyme and reason to them are nonexistent. Some comments were deleted straight from long chains, and some chains continue without their source response so they’re out of position. It wasn’t too long ago that this entire lower half of the screen was deleted, but as Topaz and I eventually found out, even though it was down for like an hour, it ended up all coming back, but a few posts were missing for some reason. Either a screenwave problem, or there’s a very unsure screenwave moderator taking “some” action as if it were on a dartboard.

  • silvercover

    01/10/2016 at 11:02am

    like they could even still post the comic here you know, the forums destruction dont matter.
    the only ones who got fucked with it will be you guys, since you guys lose out on a proper forum to post and discuss. oh sure you guys got those skype and shit, but it wont be as good as a forum that has quotes, underline, bolding, images, video, avi/sigs, formatting, color, etc.

    • Bubbafett

      01/10/2016 at 2:15pm

      You’re also someone that appears to need to be educated on things. I don’t know if the others will waste their time and I won’t waste mine. I checked out those links and read everything.

      But maybe I will tackle this one thing.
      “as if a reader would come here, look up the editor/writer of the comic, then emulate them to be some pedo. or if a kid comes here, that they would even look up the editor/writer, and as if they would contact them to do lewd stuff.”

      Sadly this is exactly how it happened. You know if you took a look at how these guys became public figures on DA and Snafu you would know that it’s all linked. You don’t seem to have done any research at all like the rest of us…pity. Go about your business.

      • silvercover

        01/10/2016 at 2:45pm

        there’s a mighty big difference though.
        those stuff are centered at DA since there you can get the request and its technically allowed/the point(people will draw art for you if you donate/do something for them). the people who’re requesting those favors for bleed are over there, not here. most of kids who go here, go here because of a comic, not because they know the guy does requests.
        you missed the problem anyway, their actions just ended up making us the big losers with the forum gone. not saying you cant bitch/complain, but you do not push it too far off or something like the forum going down happens. this is the same shit and reason why grim tales and like some of bleed’s comics are nose diving, because people kept on flaming nek. apparently now, assuming numa isnt lying, nek hates us readers and plans to kill off mimi.

        • Lolwutpear_126

          01/16/2016 at 4:12pm

          NEK never was competent as an editor to begin with. I don’t have English as my mother language and even I could still spot grammar and spelling mistakes on the comic pages being published on the site even after his so-called ‘reviewing’ of them.

  • silvercover

    01/10/2016 at 10:55am

    alright nvm, seems like its just back and forth between people arguing about grids.

    though im not exactly defending his actions… I fail to see the problem with him being part of the new comic if he has the skills for it and people want him.
    as for the argument about him being “representative” for snafu along with bleedman being bad, I dont think it matters at all anymore when they are pretty much the only ones left actually doing stuff in snafu? besides PSG, and even in that one bleed and grids had been involved for a bit, the rest of the comics still going on are by bleed and by default are “child pornography” as you guys like to say.

    just fucking abandon the site already then, clearly there’s nothing “good” left for you all white knights. the site might as well just be run by them. like seriously, who else would you guys have represent the snafu site that would actually make sense? previous artists who arent relevant/here anymore?
    if yall want some “decency”, then move on to more “friendly” comic sites. just report this site or something to appease your justice and leave this.
    you guys seem to think you’re salvaging it but no, just look at what happened. forums are gone, which means the community is more spread than ever, which isnt good with how it has barely come back since the original forums were destroyed.
    and its now going to be ironic, since if you guys were aiming to bring back some “decency”, most of those guys were frequenting in forums, probably not even reading the current comics due to how “indecent” they are. meanwhile the guys who enjoy, or as you guys like to call “disgusting pedos”, that just come to snafu for the comic without visiting the forums, are still here.

    • Birdofterror

      01/10/2016 at 11:02am

      After seeing history repeat itself again and again, I can honestly see where they’re coming from. I believe this probably started when Griddles came back to the site and wanted to be Gold or a Mod. That caused a little bit of a divide among the higherups, and it spilled out and kept picking up momentum. The decision eventually ended in a resounding and emphatic “no” because Griddles being in a position of power would inspire others to emulate him, and thus, emulate his past actions, which was obviously a huge turnoff for a lot of people. Griddles was eventually molded back into the fold, but he has since explained that he’s gotten used to the constant harassment he’s gotten for years, his skin is probably rather thick by now, but it’s also sort of his undoing, as he refused to come forth and defend himself with his own words, leaving everyone to speculate the worst. I think the wick that finally lit the dynamite that blew Snafu up was the fact that Griddles was once again working on a high profile comic, which goes back to the original problem: Griddles being in a position of power. Bleedman was and still is in a very similar position, but he’s so far off from the forums he might as well be on a different planet, so people don’t really try to grill him. As time goes on, we need to learn to stop being so mad. It’s all up to Thomas right now.

      • silvercover

        01/10/2016 at 11:12am

        as if a reader would come here, look up the editor/writer of the comic, then emulate them to be some pedo.
        or if a kid comes here, that they would even look up the editor/writer, and as if they would contact them to do lewd stuff.
        and for the DA posters for requests, those are a problem on DA and not related to snafu. and just to repeat, only the forums here would get affected by their nagging meanwhile the place where its happening wouldnt be affected.

        people seriously need to stop and think the consequences of their actions AND IF THEIR ACTIONS ARE EVEN GOING TO ACTUALLY MAKE AN IMPACT AT ALL TO THE PEOPLE THEIR TARGETING.

      • silvercover

        01/10/2016 at 11:17am

        the only ones who are getting the short end of the stick are us people that use the forum. meanwhile, grids, BR, numa and others involved could still have the comic be posted here in snafu if its already greenlit.
        this is why I said long time ago that you guys should just leave instead of bitching. it will only lead to getting even worse situation for us and not really the writers.

    • Bubbafett

      01/10/2016 at 2:10pm

      I can see you’re one people who are fine with Snafu being a cesspool. You’re happy to swim in it and gargle the collective spunk of Bleedman and Otako. That’s fine really.

  • silvercover

    01/10/2016 at 10:13am

    oh wow, so the discussion are concentrated here huh.

    this will take quite a while to read…

  • Birdofterror

    01/10/2016 at 8:46am

    Wait, it looks like a lot of posts were removed, but I’m note entirely sure the rhyme or the reason behind all the posts that got removed. I mean, everything was deleted once, then suddenly is… back??? I don’t really seem to detect a pattern. Uh, let’s all agree to let bygones be bygones?

    • Topaz

      01/10/2016 at 8:47am

      You wish.

      • Birdofterror

        01/10/2016 at 8:55am

        Well you guys started it, you’re the ones who killed the forums, not me. All I’ve ever wanted was for people to get along. You can’t even pretend that’s not what I’ve been shooting for this whole time. You don’t have to be so petty all the time. The world wont suddenly stop spinning because you made the choice to not be mad for a whole hour.

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 8:58am

          You’re choosing to get along with a convicted pedophile who shows no remorse for his actions aside from “being nice.” He went to prison. Big whoop. Woulda been in there a hell of a lot longer if he hadn’t appealed. You do realise that people get out of prison and continue committing crimes afterwards, right? Prison isn’t a punishment to those who are sick.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:01am

            Actually you know what? I tried. I REALLY tried. Shitposting is only second nature to me, not my true nature. Every time I try to be the bigger man, you always make yourself out to the be a child, no wonder you’re afraid of Griddles. If you want to constantly perpetuate the exact same of energy that causes nothing but hate, then go ahead. Life is too short to be angry all the damn time, and I refuse to be a part of your infantile reindeer games any longer. One day you’re gonna have to learn to grow up. Today is obviously not that day, and it probably wont be tomorrow either. But one day, you’ll wake up and realize all the time you’ve wasted being so hateful. One day you’re gonna need real friends, and realize everyone around you that you choose to associate with are all haters. When everyone outside of your circle has moved on, you will all turn on each other. You deserve each other.

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:02am

            LOL. Okay, yeah. Keep thinking that, buddy. Have fun continuing to have no one.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:04am

            Better than having you. Just remember you’re all on Beeare’s shit list for what you’ve done. If the forum comes back, you wont be welcome. Have a nice life.

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:06am

            Nice to know you’re still uninformed. Several of us have been in contact with BR since the forum was shut down.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:07am

            That’s funny, so have I.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:07am

            Though your second hand “some of us” leads me to believe you’re not one of them. Let’s see what happens, eh? 🙂

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:08am

            Quite hilarious.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:15am

            Actually you know what, I’m not gonna speak for Beeare. He’s a very nice, patient, forgiving man. Even more than myself. He’ll probably let you back in. Shit, he’ll probably let Griddles back in too, who knows? Everything will go back to normal perhaps, but history will just repeat itself until something is done. Shit, he’d probably even let Blood Lord back. Beeare is a lot deeper than I am. He’s always been the great mediator, I’ve tried to take notes from him, with questionable results.

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:18am

            Blood Lord will never come back.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:21am

            Who knows? Maybe he’s already here. *Xfiles Theme*

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:23am

            Oh, we know he’s already here. But in a potential future where the forum is back up, Blood Lord won’t be there. Ever. He’s harassed Hiroko endlessly. Stalked her for over a year. Drawn death art of her characters. Created an endless number of alternate accounts on several sites to try to get in good with her again. Blood Lord is not coming back.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:25am

            Jeeze you’re a real mood killer. Yeah, I know, I was just saying. Everyone would get driven up the damn wall if Blood Lord tried to come back. I’m just saying Beeare probably would have taken the effort to try to forgive him. He tried it a few times in the Therapy thread before the forum died. The results were, well, you probably know. Beeare is a nice guy. No one can deny that. <.<

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:26am

            BR is a nice guy, but he’s not so thick that he’d forgive someone who has harassed a member of his staff and allow him back to the forum. He’s nice, but he’s not a fucking idiot.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:29am

            True dat. Though I wonder if he would actually remove Griddles. That would certainly remove a lot of the volatility, but part of me fears that if Griddles was removed, the hate would probably be moved to those who tried to defend him. Like. You know. Me.

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:30am

            That does seem likely, Birdy. Though if BR says it will be so, it will be so. He’s not the type to go back on his word.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:32am

            I just want the forums back. T_T

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:35am

            Seems a bit strange considering you just mentioned that everyone will dogpile on you and make you the new target for hatred. To be honest, Birdy, you gave people plenty of reason to hate you here without your defending Griddles. It’s probably in your best interests to find a new community to haunt.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:39am

            Let’s just ignore the fact that I’ve been here longer than you and say that gold team posters usually stuck to spam. There was one time I went to spam, I don’t exactly remember what was up, but someone tried to call me out on something, and a couple of people said that I was alright and the shitposting was uncalled for. People more or less at least TRIED to be on their best behavior outside of spam. Failure to do so sort of caused the site to implode. If you and your posse want to hate me, that’s fine. I’ve done nothing to earn your ire outside of reflecting the same shit you’ve been spitting at me since the beginning all the way up these lines.
            Except that one time I called you a bitch. That was a bit uncalled for, and I apologize for that. But that’s really all I apologize for. If anything, you guys owe “me” an apology.

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:40am

            I like how you assume you’ve been here longer than me despite not actually knowing who I am. gg kid.

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:42am

            Also you’re not getting an apology for defending a pedophile and pedophilia, purposely misgendering someone, using the n-word, spouting bullshit as if it’s fact, denying factual evidence, and purposely riling people up.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:48am

            I’m not defending Pedophilia, how many times do I have to say this? You could scroll up and see no less that 5 instances saying that Griddles did a horrible act, one of the worst things a human being can do. But I’m not so shallow and vapid as you as to completely demonize him for that, I left that to the state. Do you think he’s ever going to have a job interview without that shit coming up? Yeah, nah, his life is ruined, and he doesn’t need your help to make it so. And shit, I wasn’t even the first one to use a racist slur, that was Tiki, but it’s okay because he’s your friend. Again with the double standard “not for us against us” meme shit. If anyone’s been spouting bullshit here as fact, it’s been you guys. You post one Tumblr about nothing but hating on some random girl (who ended up on your side anyway I might add, good going there) and then saying “Woopie! Proof!” without actually directing attention to anything else.
            Oh
            And that last line about intentionally riling people up? That’s fucking rich, rich and completely without objection the exact thing you’ve been doing for the past week at least. When I talk about reflecting you’re bullshit: This. This is what I’m talking about. I’ve given you at least 20 chances to calm down and meet me on friendly terms, but you dont care. ALL you want to do is hate. That’s it. That’s all you want. It’s not a means, it’s an end, it’s your goal. Do you LIKE feeling anger? Is that all this is to you?

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:51am

            If you think that being upset that you DESTROYED A FORUM is me defending a pedophile, I mean, there’s not enough cognitive dissonance to go around.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 9:55am

            The only one who can stop this is those with the conversation ball in their court. It falls to us to end things before they get out of hand.

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 9:58am

            Fact: You have purposely misgendered Luka in order to anger her.
            Fact: You feel entitled to use the n-word despite not being black. My friend up there IS black which gives them the right to use the word that WHITE MEN use to oppress them.
            Fact: You have literally said “I know about Griddles fucking his sister” and moved on passed that as if it’s no big deal. His sister was underaged. He’s also done several other heinous acts of pedophilia. You’re willing to forgive a person for doing some of the most heinous acts that a human being can commit simply because he did three years of prison? You’re a misguided soul, ma’am.
            Fact: Otako didn’t stop working with Griddles because of his past. She stopped working with him because it was a PR nightmare. As I’ve shown you proof of prior to this. Yet another instance of you ignoring factual evidence, Birdy.

            I am not fueled by hate, Birdy. You’re the one continuing these arguments because of how much you hate this. You’ve said it yourself a handful of times. It must suck to be such a hateful person, Birdy.
            I am fueled by what I believe is right. I believe that the acts Griddles committed are some of the most heinous acts that a human being can commit and getting three years of prison due to him appealing is not suitable justice. I believe that Griddles completely avoiding the topic any time it has been brought up is despicable and is not a sign of true remorse for his actions. I believe Griddles has evaded every chance of redemption that he has been offered. I believe that if Griddles wanted to start fresh and become a better person, he wouldn’t come back to the places and be in the positions he was in when he took advantage of several underaged girls. I believe the comic project that he is working on should not be featured on Snafu because of his past and how it will drag Snafu’s reputation deeper through the mud than it already has been. I am not fueled by my hatred for this man, Birdy. I am fueled by my belief that this man is doing literally everything wrong and shouldn’t be allowed a second chance until he addresses what he did, tells us that he’s ashamed of his actions, knows that nothing can be done to fix the things that he did, and that he will be doing his best to rehabilitate himself. I do not believe that Griddles is beyond redemption. But he has not even taken the first step towards it.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 10:01am

            Well Jesus Christ himself said that to hate was human, to forgive divine. I understand you. I understand everyone. My hatred is rather distracting, and hard to guide at times, but I feel like given the company I’ve been keeping for a while, that I’ve done a passable job of putting it where it needs to be. Yes, I misgendered Luka. That doesn’t make me evil, that makes me pissed. You guys sure love to ruffle my feathers. I’ll apologize and take it back if you apologize. Doesn’t have to be for everything, anything would be fine. I would quote other stuff, but I feel like we should take this one step at a time.

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 10:02am

            Apologise for misgendering Luka and I will apologise for continuing to do it with you, Birdy.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 10:07am

            Heh, see, this is the first step I was looking for. Look, I know what I did was bad. I called Luka Warbear out of anger. To be quite honest, Luka actually hasn’t chewed me out THAT MUCH. Sure, there was a bit, but there was a bit my way as well. If this really is this important to you guys, and to Luka, to whom I must admit I still dont fully understand yet, then I apologize. Shit, I suppose I also owe Hiroko an apology. She “really” didn’t like the misgendering that much either, hehe. Ha? Huh. Well, regardless, it will likely never happen again. If scraps break out, I can resort to making my case without intentionally misgendering from now on. Now I suppose the next step would be the whole apologizing for the N-Word thing. I’ll probably put that in a separate post after your response.

          • Topaz

            01/10/2016 at 10:11am

            I am sincerely sorry for misgendering you to get back at you for misgendering another. You have earned back your man badge by owning up to your mistakes and fuckups.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 10:14am

            Thank you. I suppose the next step would be the whole race card thing I pulled up there. KKK (Who I’m sure is Tiki. It’s Tiki, isn’t it?) said a racial slur up there akin to the N-Word, which I mentioned. The context of the word was not with any target or derogation in mind, and was instead used only in a passive tense where I mentioned that the word itself was used. I honestly had no intention of the word being offensive in nature, as I simply said the word, or something similar to that word, was spoken. It was not intentional to be offensive, and I apologize for using it. N-Word mentions the same words with less negativity anyway. Once again, anger is a hell of a drug. :/

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 10:39am

            You haven’t responded in a while. Are… we done?

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 10:49am

            I suppose we’ll find out later when the squad gets back together, huh? I got to go to church in a few hours. Maybe there I’ll get their angle on forgiveness. Seems kind of ironic, but you know how it is. Shit happens.

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 8:59am

          Like… Going to prison for three years does not automatically cleanse you of all of your sins. That’s not how it works.

          • Bubbafett

            01/10/2016 at 10:05am

            Hoy shit. I just had to make an account after reading through all of this. I don’t know who Birdofterror is but they’re the most inconsistent poster I have seen in a long time. Somewhere down the line I think their brain melted and have now resorted to schoolyard tactics in a dismal attempt to save face yet everyone who visits this page can see and read everything you’ve stated Birdofterror. You just flipped the switch back to accusations and defending Griddles when only yesterday you bent the knee and admitted you were wrong. Are you schizophrenic? I ask because I don’t know how you can make such a mess of your own thoughts and opinions. I don’t know why Topaz bothers to continue teaching you. Everything they said yesterday is enough and it appeared to be enough for you. Get over it, birdofterror. You lost the moment you said you would defend a pedophile because you hate a random user on a message board even more. Pack it in. Everyone can see what a fuckup you made. You even admitted it. You know you did unless you have short term memory loss too. I recommend turning off your computer and going to see a therapist about this. You’re an unstable, morally conflicted youth.

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 10:11am

            My point is rather simple, and should be especially so to someone who claims to have read everything above. An opinion that someone holds doesn’t need to be simple, flat, curved, black or white. It’s a rather contrasted opinion that has a hard time forming itself into words. I like Griddles. He’s a friendly dude. I hate Pedophiles, but that doesn’t mean I hate Griddles. I hate what he’s done, and I hate what they do, but he doesn’t bring that stuff up in the forums. I avoided contact with him for a while, but I realized we had a lot to talk about. With comics, literature, fanfictions, the snafu threads, the Bleedman talks, he was rather pleasant to talk to. I can hate a type of person without hating every person of that type. I’m sure we all have that “one” friend who breaks the mold and surprises us, you know? Who are you anyway, just curious.

          • Bubbafett

            01/10/2016 at 10:30am

            But if you hate pedophiles and Griddles is one, then surely you see the contradiction? It sounds more like you’re sad he about what he is and you are unable to connect the Griddles who appears nice and the one capable of doing such terrible things. They’re one and the same. You can’t separate someone like that.
            I mean its like saying this

            “I like Adolf Hitler. He’s a friendly guy. I hate mass genocide, but that doesn’t mean I hate Hitler. I hate what he’s done.”

            Take what you said and apply it to any other crime or criminal in history and you might say “Oh no. I definitely despise Hitler on all accounts.”

            Usually we completely distance ourselves from friends who break the mould in that way or any way related

          • Birdofterror

            01/10/2016 at 10:35am

            That’s not very classy, comparing Griddles to Hitler, but I’ll let it slide. As I said, what you see as a “Contradiction” I see as a “Very complicated opinion.” You cant distance yourself from these people. Some are misguided, need to be saved, otherwise we’ll never understand them, and history will repeat again and again. Trust me, Germany has a lot of talks about Hitler, though it’s mostly hush hush and kept on the Down Low. Efforts have gone to understand why he did what he did, how he rallied the German people, and through that instance of understanding how he thought… well, world war 3 probably wont happen because of Germany now, am I right? Bah. Regardless, I just found that hanging out with Griddles was a lot easier than hanging out with a lot of other people from snafu. He usually didn’t bring a lot of stuff up, the drama was kept low, but you know how it is. At this point, Griddles was friendly to me, and a lot of other people were cruel to me. I know what friendly people look like, and that’s the root of my complex opinion involving griddles, how I can both defend him, and shame the fact that pedophilia is one of the most unforgivable things a human can do. Surely you can understand at least this? It’s not terrible complicated.

          • Bubbafett

            01/10/2016 at 2:07pm

            I’m glad my comparison had the desired effect. It could be easily said (and has been) that your opinions of Griddles are not at all classy. I can see where you’re coming from now as opposed to reading your initial reasoning. Sounds rather conflicted. Oh and I’m just a lurker. Never made an account and if I did it’s lost now.

  • Birdofterror

    01/10/2016 at 6:47am

    I wasn’t really aware of Whatis’s actions. I tended to stay away from spam because all of the thread were either nonsequitors or blatant shitposting. No doubt in part due to Luka’s literal shitpost crusade, naming everyone shitposters- except the gold squad. Totally not intentional guys!

  • MasterQueif

    01/09/2016 at 7:33pm

    Where did you normally post Loser? I remember seeing you around once or twice and you never seemed that bad

    • Bloodlord

      01/09/2016 at 7:43pm

      Wanna join our Discord?

    • Ether101

      01/09/2016 at 7:47pm

      I posted a little bit in the comic section and then stopped. I’ve been revising the forums every now and then but its was boring before it had to be completely redone a few years back and all of the artist leaving didn’t help either.

      • Birdofterror

        01/09/2016 at 7:49pm

        Yeah the initial site died because Screenwave ended up finalizing their site renovations with Snafu. Unfortunately it dragged the Forums into the nether reaches of the internet, and took Thomas quite a bit of time to fix it. Sorry to see you come back again to such a sorry state of affairs: The site is dead again lol.

  • Topaz

    01/09/2016 at 7:27pm

    Hi Loser. c: How are you?

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 7:33pm

      Hey Ether 🙂

    • Ether101

      01/09/2016 at 7:36pm

      I’m alright and you?

      • Topaz

        01/09/2016 at 7:37pm

        I, for one, am pretty good! Were you wondering why the forum is down? I think Thomas got sick of Snafu and shut it down. BR’s presently trying to get into contact with him to see if he can get it back up, but it’s not looking hopeful.

        • Ether101

          01/09/2016 at 7:49pm

          Okay, it just sounds like there’s a lot of shit going on and people trying to stick up for their friends casing drama for it to be just that.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 7:51pm

          It does seem like there’s more going on than just that, doesn’t it.

  • MasterQueif

    01/09/2016 at 7:27pm

    what is this sentence, what is grammar?

  • Birdofterror

    01/09/2016 at 7:26pm

    OH GOD RUN, LEAVE BEFORE THEY CATCH YOU

  • Birdofterror

    01/09/2016 at 7:26pm

    Yeah, I scrolled and see no evidence. The conversation was mostly about what we saw in the thread, all of which I mentioned either on hearsay or direct testimony. But, if you insist on playing coy on a misguided attempt at getting the intellectual high ground, be my guest. I know you have nothing to back your words up.

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 7:30pm

      We also have the moral high ground. Oh we do have evidence.
      I’m laughing now because you displayed such a lack of understanding these events and you dare to say we have none.
      pfft xp you silly

    • MasterQueif

      01/09/2016 at 7:32pm

      We have the intellectual, and the moral high ground, you are fighting an uphill battle defending a pedophile man, he shouldnt be supported and should be continually condemned, he made his bed and must lay in it now

    • Birdofterror

      01/09/2016 at 7:45pm

      You guys as a matter of fact, dont have the moral highground. In fact, you only have the cultural highground. It wasn’t so long ago that homosexuals and transsexuals were in the same boat as pedophiles. You simply find yourself on the right side of history. If you had the moral highground, you would find it in your heart to forgive your fellow man. Not forget, but forgive. That’s just a sombering fact that makes me a little sad every time I see the hitler stache. Seeing you guys never reveal your names is sad too. Like agents in the darkness, insurgents trying to stir up the devil’s wishes. I pity you. Or would, if I didn’t hate you so much. I’m not above forgiveness, but you have to apologize first. Thing about the endgame here, folks.

      • Princess

        01/09/2016 at 11:15pm

        “It wasn’t so long ago that homosexuals and transsexuals were in the same boat as pedophiles. ”

        DAMN THEM HOMO AND TRANS PEOPLE LIVING THEIR LIVES NOT TOUCHING CHILDREN! DAMN THEM!

        • ULTRADJ

          01/10/2016 at 1:24am

          He didn’t say he hated Homo’s and trans, he said people way back when thought of them in the same league as pedo’s. He nor I have a problem with them at all.

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 1:45am

          and yet he constantly misgenders Luka. alrighty then.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:14am

          Let me just set that record straight: I misgender luka on purpose because I feel that they haven’t earned or even tried to earn my respect or acceptance, so, in an effort to make them angry, I do so on purpose. It’s not a habit I keep. It doesn’t take a lot of work to go along with someone’s correct pronouns, but boy is it fun to find such an easy and exploitable way to make someone’s entire mental state crumble, and the urge to not do so when someone kills your forum is immense. So, essentially you’re both right. No, I dont hate homosexuals or transexxuals, but I do misgender Warbear: Mostly because they’ve made no effort to be a decent human being around me, (Especially back in 2012 where they were partly to due for my wrongful probation) so returning the sentiment is prudent on my end.

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 6:22am

          Oh so you’re just a miserable person who believes that the correct usage of someone’s pronouns needs to be earned as opposed to being default. Well in that case, I guess I’ll just refer to you as a woman because you haven’t earned the right to be referred to as a man. c:

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:40am

          Whatever floats your boat, dude. You might find that, given the prior and current situations, that this may not be the most prudent course of action for legitimate change.

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 6:41am

          Tut tut, Birdy. Honestly, you’re never going to earn your proper pronouns at this rate. You need to start kissing some serious ass to re-earn your man badge. You do make for a rather pretty lady though.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:45am

          So, what exactly do you expect from me? A pledge of allegiance to the social justice cartel? I refer people to their correct pronouns when I don’t know them, or I like them. If someone makes themselves out to be a destructive, self righteous asshat, you might find that- when people go out of their way to insult another, that they tend to use ample exaggeration to get their point across. Like “asshole” for example. That person is not LITERALLY an asshole, that would be silly. But you call them that knowing that it makes them mad. I have no problems calling everyone I see by their correct pronouns, BUT if someone is mean, I find that reversing the sentiment is an excellent way to make them mad.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:48am

          Addendum: It apparently also makes you mad. So, given how you have made literally zero efforts to understand my case, that’s bonus points.

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 6:50am

          Ah, so you liken calling someone an “asshole” to refusing to call someone by their proper pronouns, is that it? Yeah, that makes sense. Except for the fact that it’s a load of absolute shit. Birdy, if I were to call you an asshole right now, would that really cut down to the core of who you are as a person? Do you personally identify yourself as an asshole? I mean, it’d make every interaction with you much less of a surprise if you opened with it. “Hi there, I’m Bird Oft Error and I’m an asshole.” “Oh, now I expect you to say things that an asshole would say. Thanks for the heads up!” No. Calling someone an asshole is a petty derogatory term for someone who’s, well, acting like an asshole. Refusing to call someone by their pronouns isn’t that. It’s cutting a person at who they are at a fundamental level. Acknowledging them that you do not see them as who they are. Refusing to acknowledge their entire identity. You cannot call yourself an ally to any trans person if you would purposely misgender someone to make them angry, because it is a fundamentally shitty thing for you to do. You do not respect these people. You do not see these people as who they actually are. You’re a bigoted, idiotic, moronic, piece of transphobic garbage.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:52am

          You know the purpose of insults is to do exactly what you mentioned, right? To cut to the bone? To rattle the person in front of you? Just like KKK up there using the word nigger, or me using the word male (MALE! OH MY GOD, MALE) the intent of the word is solely to piss the other person off. That’s why insults exist. If you think that some insults are worse than others, then you may be right. That just makes them better insults. Hence why you calling me a girl wont really work, and you know that.

      • Princess

        01/10/2016 at 2:33am

        If he hates homos, I’m down with being hated by Birddot.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:16am

          Nothing wrong with homosexuals, straight people, transexuals, or anyone unmentioned caught in between. Like with Griddles and his actions, I react and respond to people based solely on how they are as people, not WHAT they are as people.

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 6:26am

          Come on, Princess, don’t be so hard on Bird Oft Error. Can’t you see she’s genuinely trying to understand and not trying to be an ass at all? Give her a break.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:38am

          Giving half of of a shit about your opposition is better than giving no shit, right? I “am” genuinely trying to find a compromise here. I don’t judge people based on their sex, their gender, the color of their skin, or their creed. I judge them on their actions alone. One would argue it’s a desirable trait.

        • Princess

          01/10/2016 at 6:39am

          LMFAO! Okay, with that logic.. Birddot is an ill-informed, transphobic, homophobic, pedophile apologist asshole who needs to go to therapy! 😀

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 6:40am

          Yeah Princess. She just judges people based on their actions alone. Like how she judges Griddles on being a sex offender. And Luka for calling out that sex offender. She’s an equal opportunity bigot!

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:42am

          I dont recall being homophoic. Ill informed is no longer relevant because Topaz shared the info. Transphobic is fair I guess, I didn’t really give Luka a chance- though that’s just one example, and pedophile apologist is a bit unfair, all I wanted was for people to stop shitposting about Griddles. I knew that constantly pushing it was bad, and now the forum is dead. If anything, that last note could be replaced with “Has excellent foresight.”

        • Princess

          01/10/2016 at 6:50am

          Dude, no matter your opinion on a person.. you shouldn’t be misgendering. People shitposting Griddles? It’s not shitposting. He’s a convicted pedophile. He can do time all he wants, but it doesn’t change the things he wrote or the sharing of his SISTER’S, A CHILD, pictures. I don’t understand how you do not get this. He shouldn’t be back on a website that was basically a scene of the crime. A website with other underage children. Irl there would be him registering as a sex offender and not allowed near any children in a certain radius. Why should this be different?

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:55am

          I know what Griddles has done, there’s no need to write a two paragraph essay for me, I’m not your professor. Also nice life outlook. “It’s not shiposting if you’re on the right side!” What an exquisite meme! It bars you from taking responsibility for your actions! Giving you wind in your sails, knowing that your side is right and their side is wrong! I’m not buying it. Everyone is human, and just like Luka is deserving of my consideration involving her gender, Griddles is deserving of your consideration for forgiveness. We both know neither of us are going to budge.

        • Princess

          01/10/2016 at 7:00am

          I don’t forgive child molesters. I don’t forgive anyone taking advantage of a CHILD when they are supposed to be an ADULT. Are you sore on this subject because you are also a pedophile? Is this what’s going on?

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 7:03am

          Ah, so you’ve devolved to the “If you’re not with us, you’re against us” portion of the social justice argument manual? Alright, let me give you the token response. Griddles said please and thank you. Griddles raped a child and went to prison. Griddles worked on some of my favorite comics. Griddles committed one of the worse crimes imaginable. Griddles was nice to the forum. Griddles was hated by all. Jesus Christ once said “Let they who is without (who never has) sin cast the next stone.” It’s human to hate, it’s divine to forgive.

        • Princess

          01/10/2016 at 7:07am

          He ignored my pedo accusation, guys. Birddot is a pedo. #confirmed

          Please, see Birddot as a pedo. Thank you.

          I said please and thank you. Obviously you must believe.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 7:10am

          Ah the “He ignored it so it must be true” response, also a tried and true SJW debating tactic. Keep pulling things out of your cavernous twat, yo. It’ll sure get Daddy’s approval.

        • Exodis

          01/10/2016 at 7:12am

          Well, she was being polite about it… I can’t not believe that.

      • Princess

        01/10/2016 at 6:58am

        Birddot confirmed as KKK.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 7:00am

          Actually the KKK found themselves in positions of power and government. They went around preaching their ideologies and attacking those with different views. Reminds me of someone. I was never anyone, never gold, never higherups. I don’t qualify for KKK status.

        • Princess

          01/10/2016 at 7:02am

          Brah, you were never gold because you were, and continue to be, a fucking moron. Your devil’s advocate stance is disgusting and good god, I pray for the people you know irl.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 7:05am

          I love how people constantly bring up how I wasn’t gold. You know, the useless group that turned to shit the instant Spider Tiki joined, was eventually dissolved for being completely useless, and whose members constantly perpetuate the shitposting that killed the forums. I wanted to join it like, TWICE, because having the cool gold name would be neat. It wasn’t much later that everyone said that Gold had no real purpose. But the purpose was to get a kind of cartel together. Are you proud of what you golds have done? You shouldn’t be.

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 7:06am

          Dude, you’re the one that brought it up.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 7:08am

          I said that the analogy better fit Gold Squad rather than me. The tertiarty point that I wasnt gold was what Stuff picked up on. Also if you search for words in this page of shitposts, you would find that the gold squad was mentioned at least 16 (exactly 16) times before I brought it up here, so take that as you will.

        • Topaz

          01/10/2016 at 7:11am

          Yes but in an argument of, and I quote, “I love how people constantly bring up how I wasn’t gold” being brought up after Princess’s post, you’re clearly the one in the wrong because you’re the one who brought it up prior to Princess mentioning it. Her honing in on it is irrelevant, Birdy.

      • MasterQueif

        01/10/2016 at 7:04am

        Forgiveness is not a neccecity of morality, as morality is something subjective to society, seeing as we dont live in saudi arabia I wont be defending someone tantamount to a child molester/ rapist

        I have often said myself that eventually the things we find abhorrent in a future society may be used against us to make us look backwards, but we are in the present, dont try to indirectly defend a pedophile and now pedophila.

        Secondly, I’m black, me , referencing racial issues, or using racially charged names that deal with MY people does not make this something you have any place weighing in on at all even using the word nigger is nowhere near tantamount to you saying it you arrogant little afterbirth. For the record however I only said the word “nigga” because even I find the word nigger repugnant you fucking troglodyte

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 7:06am

          Ah, so you’re black, so that disbars you from using black insults. I’m male, that disbars me from using male insults then. Seems rather simple. Thank you for clearing that up, Spider.

  • Birdofterror

    01/09/2016 at 7:21pm

    Are you just combining words together randomly in hopes that they form a cohesive sentence? I read everything. I was there. You guys are just sort of bystanders, it was with Topaz. Where is she, by the way? Jerking one off while sucking the other? Bah. If you actually have a point to make, then please do so. Would it kill you to stick to one chain, by the way?

  • Birdofterror

    01/09/2016 at 7:09pm

    Actually I think I proved my point rather well back there, hence no one responding to it. But besides that point, who even are you?

    • MasterQueif

      01/09/2016 at 7:14pm

      I am the hope of the comment section! I am the answer to all of the fuckboys who only talk shit! I am the guardian of common sense! I am not a Pedophile! Ally to IQ ! Nightmare to you!

      • Birdofterror

        01/09/2016 at 7:16pm

        Don’t get me wrong, it certainly is common sense to hate Griddles. He’s a pedophile. There is no reason to like a pedophile. They’re human garbage and deserve all the bad stuff handed to them. Human hive mind mentality ordains it is much easier, and safer to hate than to think, empathize, and forgive. But Griddles could at least hold a decent conversation and didn’t hide behind an anonymous image. So I’ll ask you again, who are you?

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 7:21pm

          A second ago you completely disagreed. Do you even know what you belief. WHAT DO YOU BELIEF!?

          Griddles is scum but can have a decent conversation. Ted Bundy was charming. i suppose he gets a pass for being a serial killer?

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:23pm

          No, I still disagree with it. Pedophiles are human filth and a lot of countries give them the death sentence. What I am stating, now, is fact. What I was stating before, is that Griddles, as a person on snafu, was actually a very nice guy and could hold a decent conversation. I was aware of his sins and made no effort to hide that fact. I didnt exactly go around the forums preaching that he was a god damned saint, but he wasn’t Satan either. Maybe Hitlerstache up there knows something about Satan.

        • MasterQueif

          01/09/2016 at 7:23pm

          I am vengance, I am the night, I am, THE BLACKMAN

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 7:28pm

          So what you’re saying is…you’re gullible and naive? You bought a nice guy charade. Don’t get all murderous on us because you fucked up. How old are you anyway?

          We can teach you why your words don’t make sense.

          Let us help you. It’s time.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:58pm

          Before I tell you my age, I’d like to know your name. 😉

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 7:16pm

      You think you proved your point? You won’t even look at evidence. What are you afraid of?

      • Birdofterror

        01/09/2016 at 7:17pm

        What evidence? The fact that Griddles and Otako worked behind the scenes for no less than 30 days? I know that. That was actually rather integral to the point that I made.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 7:23pm

          Here ya go, Birdy. http://otakoisshit.tumblr. com/

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 7:24pm

          Oh weird, we can actually post links on this page. http://otakoisshit.tumblr.com/

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:29pm

          I’m about halfway through the tumblr. When I’m done reading all of it, and I will be reading all of it, what exactly will you want me to take away from this? Is there a conversation or something you want to have? When I’m done reading, I’ll refresh to check your response, if there is one. If you’re trying to guide me into another conversation, that’s fine. My time, like the time of the people I am currently conversing with, obviously has no serious value.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 7:31pm

          It’s evidence to literally everything I’ve mentioned in my conversation with you. I’m providing you with something you haven’t provided me with. Your side of the argument is pure speculation and your point of view. That blog has concrete evidence and several different points of view. Even some from people not affiliated with Snafu in the first place. Hell, even one person who presently works for Otako Studio.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 7:33pm

          Do you only visit this website?

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:42pm

          Nah, I read a few pastebins when I asked around trying to see what was up. I recall this twitter form a while ago. Gotta say. Otako is shit. Kind of… kind of a real classy name. Yup, a real winner there, but I wont judge it by its covers. Most of the top articles are mostly heresay and incorrect definitions of the word plagiarism. The word she’s looking for is “Parody” but I digress, that’s obviously not what you wanted me to see or say or talk about. What you wanted me to see was much more likely near the bottom of the screen with TechyTechy, who completely blew a gasket even though Otako did literally everything she said. If the point you’re trying to make was that people knew about this a long time ago, even longer than the alleged 2 day clusterfuck, then, well, I guess you’re right. The dates all seem to add up and I concede my argument. Otako was completely incorrect about someone from Snafu being the one who flooded her twitter, though you cant be too mad at her for now knowing. The mannerisms and posting habits are rather similar. So, Techy Techy overreacted, then Otako overreacted, that’s all fine and dandy. Her entire social circle was kind of fucked and rife with controversy form the start. Though her trying to safe face after the whole Griddles incident shouldn’t really be seen as a bad thing. I mean, she DID can him, after all. YES, I saw her backpedal and try to deny the evidence, but once the got the actual evidence, she canned him.
          So why did this have to continue? Why did this all have to happen? Is this going to be why the site dies?

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:46pm

          Also I see that Spider Tiki founded that Blog. Is it possible that Tiki himself could have had a hand in the initial Griddles fiasco? You said yourself, as well as everyone else, that no one knew exactly started to make things really bad.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 7:49pm

          This has to continue because people like this shouldn’t be representing Snafu. Bleedman was bad enough as it is, but now we’ll have Griddles as well as Otako Studio. If the site were to die due to being associated with convicted felons and art thieves, then it would probably be for the best in the first place.

        • MasterQueif

          01/09/2016 at 7:49pm

          Its not a parody its treated as a direct sequel, they say so themselves go look at the article man, they do not parody it or do anything original with it at all, they copied the formula, writing style, and art style and have made a comic explicitly treated as if it were season two, they are copy pasting panty and stocking, the story may be newm but at best that only makes it fanfiction, loosely paraphrasing is STILL PLAGIARISM.

          And if you read the article youd know they are asking to be paid for it, and that it is the only thing they will be focusing on

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:51pm

          That’s actually very reasonable. I actually suggested to Tuor and Hiroko that- even though I liked Griddles, that Banning him would have probably helped stabilize the forums. Too many people destabilized the forums because he was a pedophile. Those of us who didn’t care were not nearly common enough. If you ask me, Thomas should have banned Griddles, or all of his haters. Not nuke the site. That doesn’t really “solve” anything.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:53pm

          Eh, let’s not split hairs on payed parody or plagiarism. For what it’s worth, you’re probably right.

        • Bloodlord

          01/09/2016 at 7:53pm

          Honestly. We didn’t think this would be a defining moment at all. We never expected it to happen. Thomas has stated before that working on the site alongside Screenwave has been tough. We’re surprised this made him give up on it when it could have been handled internally. No moderators had a chance to intervene. It occurred so fast.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:54pm

          Regardless, I have stuff to do. I’ll be back later, if you care. I’m still yearning for the day when this all gets put behind us. When that happens, maybe we’ll find each other on the same side. Though… I probably doubt it.

  • Birdofterror

    01/09/2016 at 5:58pm

    Hey fam you’re allowed to shitpost all you want, there are no mods or gods here. Just know you’re a piece of shit that gets enjoyment out of destruction rather than creation. Also correct me if I’m wrong (Just kidding, I’m never wrong) but Otako kicked Griddles out of the group as soon as she figured all of that shit out, so she’s TECHNICALLY on your side, but your side is so blinded by seminal fluid that you attack everyone that is so much as a different font from you.

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:05pm

      Actually if you lived with your eyes open, you’d see that she consistently tries to play the whole thing off as either a) she didn’t know about him, b) the entire thing is fake, or c) it was actually some other guy that got arrested and not Griddles at all. and she came storming into the forum pointing fingers at people blaming them for letting out the information that she was working with Griddles, despite the fact that both her and Griddles announced their little partnership themselves. she’s not on our “side.” she didn’t fire Griddles because of what he did or who he is. she fired Griddles because it was a PR disaster that resulted in several artists refusing to work with the studio.

      • Birdofterror

        01/09/2016 at 6:14pm

        She came “Storming” into the forums? Right. No, what she DID was “storm” into her own thread, HER thread, and told people to shut up. EITHER way, Griddles was cut from the team. So what if she tried to save face? People at the head of projects try to save face. It’s better to do that than to fight. Shit, she didnt even draw first blood. You fucking parasites absolutely bombarded her twitter with spam and outed her as some kind of pedophile collaborator. You guys are garbage. “Lived with my eyes open?” You stupid fucker, does the phrase “Pot calling the kettle black” ring true to you? If not, consider fucking off back to your bull. Lets not forget it was people like you that killed the forums, not people like Otako, people caught in the middle of you and your social crusade.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:18pm

          Oh look at how uninformed you are, little birdy. No no no. No. As the artist rank had access to the gold members section (which you wouldn’t know, because you didn’t), Otako came storming into a thread that we used for discussing how to better the forums and started accusing people of spamming her Twitter, Tumblr, and DeviantArt with complaints and accusations. Now keep in mind we had no idea who the fuck she was prior to who doing this. Hell, we didn’t even know the deal about her and Griddles until about an hour or two before she announced that she wasn’t working with him anymore. I seriously don’t know where you’re getting your information birdy, but you only know about half of the stuff that you actually should.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:20pm

          And we’re talking about Otako being so full of piss and vinegar about something that she did herself that even BR and Thomas were considering banning her. Hell, I’m pretty sure we put her on probation for a time because of all the shit that she would start.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:22pm

          People DID spam her twitter, Tumblr, and Deviantart. It might not have been you, or me, or him, or some other guy, but it was someone- from this forum. Someone who may not have been YOU, but was without a doubt someone like you. Someone who kept preaching some social justice ideology and whoever doesn’t follow it irredeemable. Also, Gold Squad sucked and got dissolved for being useless. Me 1 you 0, chum.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:25pm

          Oh my GOD you are so salty, dude. You know who spammed the Otako Studio social media sites? People completely unrelated to Snafu. People who had the massive displeasure of working with their shoddy studio. People who already despised them for stealing art, OCs, and refusing to pay artists. Griddles was only the cherry on the top of the Otako Studio shit sundae.

          And birdy, gold members were an experiment from the start. An EXPERIMENT. It was never meant to be a permanent facet of the forum. Which, of course, you wouldn’t know because no one tells you anything because you’re nobody.

          • Sentios

            01/25/2016 at 3:34am

            Fact Check: Gold was always a special snowflake thing for the spam clique, even when you tried to hide it by recruiting long time users that weren’t in the clique. Several of us called you all on it mere days after it’s implementation even. It was a dead end that would never lead to anything constructive and sure enough it led to nothing positive.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:26pm

          I mean look at this, you’re already turning this website into spam again. Look at all of this salty shitposting. It’s unimaginable. Spam was a got damned containment zone for your fallout.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:27pm

          Oh right, someone from outside of the site who used to work with Otako stalked her tumblr, twitter and deviant art, saw she went to a website, heard about a collaberation that you literally JUST ADMITTED to hearing “A day or so ago before it all broke out” then during that incredibly impossible window of time learned everything about Griddles and shitposted ALL of the bands with it? That’s so fucking unlikely it borders on the impossible. It was obviously someone from snafu. Denying that is retarded.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:29pm

          Birdy, you realise that both her and Griddles announced their collaboration on DeviantArt about a month before the announcement that they weren’t working together anymore, right? Oh, you didn’t know that? You’re just assuming things from your own narrow point of view? Yeah that’s what I thought.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:30pm

          Oh so they announced it so long ago on deviant art that everyone, yourself included, and the shitposters included, just decided to WAIT until a month or so later to just frontload all the shitposting? No, you’re full of shit. Stop pushing this front, it’s completely wrong.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:30pm

          Like, this info was out there for an entire month. What was that about an impossible window of time? 30 days sounds like a completely possible window of time to me.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:31pm

          Who even are you anyway? You’re that chick who used the dumb steven universe avatar, right? Didnt see you much outside of spam. Glad I didn’t you’re a really stupid bitch.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:32pm

          The window of time was the window that existed in between Otako announcing to Snafu that she was working with griddles, closed by the shitposting that swarmed every social media site she worked on, less than 24-48 hours.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:35pm

          Birdy, are you reading a single thing that I’m saying? I’ve already told you that none of us even knew about Otako working with Griddles until a short while before it was announced that they were no longer working together. We didn’t wait to unload all of our vitriol until the last possible second. We had no vitriol as we were completely unaware of the entire matter. We have firsthand accounts of artists commissioned by Otako Studio refusing to work with them due to their involvement with Griddles. Commissioned artists who have absolutely nothing to do with Snafu or the forum. Artists who were uncomfortable with working for a studio that would employ a sex offender. Oh, but of course you’re still going to turn it around to the shitposting of me and several others, providing no evidence whatsoever.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:42pm

          I’m not the kind of person who misreads history that he sees. I was there, too, you know. THAT SAID, most of what you said is correct. Except you’re totally downplaying the whole tumblr thing. It wasn’t just “Her followers and team getting disgruntled that they would employ a sex offender” it was more along the lines of one or two people (There were 2 I think) going to every single social media spreading site (Like tumblr or deviantart for example) and then putting it up to 11 on full blast. Invading every conversation and twitter post with it until nothing you could see was Griddles and the rape case. Now, it may LOOK like I’m defending child molesters, but that’s only because I hate you so much that I only have enough hate to hate one thing at a time. On normal days, I have enough energy to hate two things.
          BUT
          The fact still remains. No one on snafu acted out until Otako announced on the site that she was working with Griddles. DO NOT try to rewrite history, because this is when it actually happened. There was a period of anywhere between 1, MAYBE 2, but likely only 1 day from when Griddles himself entered Otako’s thread and announced to everyone on Snafu (because you are right, he DID work with her for a long time, but never actually officially told anyone on snafu until much later) that he was working with her. That announcement by griddles was in almost a single 24 hour period met with the Otako Twitter raid. Coincidence? That’s rhetorical: It wasn’t.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:47pm

          B-Birdy? What I’m getting at is the fact that there was an entire month’s worth of time for people to send hate and complaints to Otako Studio’s social media platforms. An entire month of the studio working with a sex offender. And prior to that? God knows how long of them taking advantage of other artists, as well as stealing/tracing art, and stealing OCs. Now I don’t know how good you are with math, Birdy, but let me give you a little equation here, alright? Let’s see… Working with a sex offender + stealing art + stealing OCs + horrible PR skills = (x) Solve for x, Birdy. Oh wait, you shouldn’t have to, because it’s obvious to everyone that Otako Studio is a lightning rod for hate. They didn’t STOP getting hate within that month of working with Griddles. They didn’t STOP getting hate until they announced that they weren’t working with him anymore. And even then they still got some afterwards. So you’re telling me that 30 days of constant hate overlapping with the one day that anyone on Snafu knowing that they were collaborating couldn’t be just a bit of a coincidence? My, you sure are blinded by your anger, Birdy.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 6:50pm

          There’s actual incorrect. Since you weren’t in Gold and have not read insider proof with detailed chat logs. If you’d like to see everything we can show you.

          “Now, it may LOOK like I’m defending child molesters,”
          No you definitely are. You stated so a few minutes ago. Don’t forget what you post.

          “but that’s only because I hate you so much that I only have enough hate to hate one thing at a time. On normal days, I have enough energy to hate two things.”

          You need to probably take a hammer and smash your computer up if that’s your logical answer to how you feel about someone you don’t know from a website dedicated to a powerpuff girl comic.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:54pm

          You’re right, but I don’t think you understand where I’m coming from. Let me reboot my point by quoting your first line.
          “There was an entire month’s worth of time for people to send hate and complaints to Otako Studio’s social media platforms.”
          Yes, yes there was. You will see from the post above yours (Which you probably didnt, you probably just skimmed and cherry picked something to hate) that I mentioned that Griddles worked with Otako for a while. Yet no Vitriol was spilled. No, there was no one on her twitter constantly spouting this shit until much later, and for a very good reason. For a VERY long time, no one who even knew who Griddles was watching. There was probably one, MAYBE two people from snafu who actually cared about Otako before she became the target of intense controversy with this whole subject. This was because she was new, inexperienced, but spunky. She was that “meh” artist that everyone was aware of on Snafu but didn’t move forward to check out. Notice how everyone was in good spirits until one day, SUDDENLY, they weren’t in very good fucking spirits anymore. This was NOT a gradual thing, they didnt get a “little bit of hate one day, then a lot of hate later” that’s not how it happened. There was a semi public but still kind of hushed collaboration going on that NO ONE cared about until SOMEONE, coinciding with the posts Griddles made on snafu, suddenly got the Light of Jehova in their eyes and made it their personal crusade to crash Otako’s comic with no survivors. I thought they would stop at the comic, but they took the forums instead because you see, the shitposting never really stopped. It just sort of… rested, for a while. Before it came back. Now here we are.

        • KKKronicMasturhater

          01/09/2016 at 6:55pm

          You do know that we gold members were unaware of her existence until she came storming into our forum like a bull in a china shop?

          She was an insignificant pissant like bleedman, until that nigress stepped on our turf and bit her fuckin thumb at us.

          No one talked to or about that knobhead until she came at us for something we didnt do, all we did was say griddles shouldnt be gold

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:56pm

          Who even are you Gard? Too vain to even stick to one name? Regardless, I’ve constantly claimed that what Griddles did was reprehensible, and everyone, including the state, would agree. Which they did. He was imprisoned for his actions and will be followed for his sins for the rest of his life.
          I just find it MUCH easier to hate you guys than Griddles, because Griddles didn’t kill my forum, you guys did.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:57pm

          Well Birdy, you are clearly blinded by your anger, so I think I’m just going to leave it at that. You won’t see reason. You won’t provide any form of evidence. Hell, you won’t even ask me for the evidence that I have that completely contradicts everything that you’re saying. It seems to me that all you wanna do is shitpost and argue with someone like you did on the forum. Oh well, continue defending a sex offender than. Let me know where that gets you.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:00pm

          No, I’m perfectly reasonable. I talk with reasonable people and would like nothing more than to end this verbal bloodshed with us all as friends. I’ve never stated even one time that my goal was beyond anything other than for people to just leave Griddles alone. It is you guys who won’t allow that. There would be nothing that would make me happier than for everyone to calm down and try to fix what happened, but a lot of people here seem to be quite happy with how things turned out, so forgive me for reflecting hate to hate.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 7:04pm

          I love that there’s nothing holding you back, Birdo. We see you now. Unbound. Unbent. Standing as tall as you can. You’d die a martyr for a paedophile just to spite others. No one would weep for you. There would be no grave. No funeral. Just buried deep with your thumbs up your ass.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:06pm

          See what crowds I’m dealing with here?

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 7:08pm

          Never mind that. You should see what we’re dealing with. Yikes.

        • MasterQueif

          01/09/2016 at 7:09pm

          The ground would slowly die, all intellegent life being drained until it withers away into nothing, your remain burrowing itself deep into the earth, until you reach the mantle and are destroyed by the fires of intelectualism, banished to the void of idiocy from which ultradj ejaculated you

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:12pm

          This is kind of rich, actually. You know, I never really cared for the big social groups on Snafu and quite frankly, the higherups didn’t either. They were sort of filth pits, something to be washed away. Gold dissolving was probably the salient treatment to your posteriors needed for you guys to come up with the MASTER PLAN! So tell me, the plane crashed with no survivors, BUT WHY DOES BANE STILL WEAR THE MASK?

    • Topaz

      01/09/2016 at 6:11pm

      Also we love people that are different fonts from us. Sans and Papyrus would never do shit like this.

  • Lolwutpear_126

    01/09/2016 at 12:00pm

    Yep, the drama will just continue here instead of on the forums.

    • Gardeeian

      01/09/2016 at 1:32pm

      It’s as if the forum was never deleted. Well at least it keeps them happy.

      • Birdofterror

        01/09/2016 at 5:56pm

        Them? You’re here perpetuating the stereotype too yo.

  • athdlg

    01/09/2016 at 4:31am

    You’re already in the discord one.

    • ULTRADJ

      01/09/2016 at 8:27pm

      I think I was booted out. Tell who ever is reasonable in there to say I want to talk to Tuor or Thomas directly.

      • Bloodlord

        01/09/2016 at 10:34pm

        Thomas is not there.

      • athdlg

        01/10/2016 at 2:15am

        After these shenanigans? I doubt they want you in.
        You can try to get in touch with Thomas, but I don’t think you’ll get the answer you’re seeking out that hasn’t either already been mentioned or assumed.

  • ULTRADJ

    01/08/2016 at 10:54pm

    Hey BeeAre. Can I get in contact with Thomas? I would like to ask a few questions about the forum. Unless you or Tuor can answer them.

  • Gardeeian

    01/08/2016 at 6:06pm

    No one likes you.

    • ULTRADJ

      01/08/2016 at 11:02pm

      Okay, who the hell are you? Are you a user from the forums or just some random asshole?

    • Birdofterror

      01/09/2016 at 5:28am

      I like UltraDJ. His posting habits were leagues ahead of most of the other posters on Snafu. Not much to hate.

      • Gardeeian

        01/09/2016 at 5:51am

        Birdots of feather flock together.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 5:54am

          LOL “leagues ahead”. I honestly don’t know how natural selection hasn’t grabbed you yet.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:25pm

          Because natural selection only “Grabs” the species that go extinct. The successful remain.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 6:39pm

          You’re getting close.

      • KKKronicMasturhater

        01/09/2016 at 6:00am

        UltraDJ’s posts must have been lightyears ahead, into a distant future where society has collapsed in on itself and the smart bow before the idiotic

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 6:05am

          Ahem to that brother. See? This is just like the forums. Keeping you active and on your toes 🙂

      • KKKronicMasturhater

        01/09/2016 at 6:13am

        Every post you make continue to convince me that the better part of you ran down your mothers leg during conception, did whatever sperm cell you had the misfortune of being happen to travel from your fathers ass crack before reaching her womb? Because all you do is spout nonsensical bullshit whenever you post

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 4:58pm

          You see your… NAME, right? I mean, I know you’re trolling, but I’m not sure Gardeeian does. He seems to mistakenly think that you’re being serious.

        • ULTRADJ

          01/09/2016 at 5:17pm

          @BirdOfTerror Don’t bother with these dickless assholes. It seems with the deterioration of the forums and abusing the freedom of the front site, it seems they just want to get a rise out of their pathetic lives from all the confusion. Don’t ask me why, but it’s better to not to waste to much energy on them. You can call them out, but don’t get frustrated over these scum.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 5:19pm

          DJ, weren’t you just begging to join group chats with these scum just yesterday?

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 5:29pm

          I know who KKKronicMasturhater is. We are here to poke you Griddle lovers with sticks. It’s working really well. Oh and yeah Ultra. You were booted from Discord ages ago. No one wants you there. Just sit here and drool in the corner.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 5:37pm

          Watching Birdo and DJ reminds me of 2001 space odysseys’ dawn of man scene. As hilarious as this is. Perhaps we should allow them to circle jerk the black obelisk (Griddles) in peace?

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 5:55pm

          Mentioning circle jerk to me is hilarious considering your attitude and actions. I’m not a member of any community, while you kick others with dissenting opinions out of “your” skype and discord groups. I hope you realize that’s the exact definition of Circlejerk. Actually wait, of course you do, I’m still waiting for the “AHA I WAS JUST JOKING” to come from you. Also, of course you know who KKK (Ku klux klan, very classy by the way Faggot) is, after all, you’re Circle Jerking with him. People like you wont stop until the entire internet burns down and you’re left to be king of its ashes. Loving every life, fam.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:00pm

          Actually most of our conversations revolve around screaming about Steven Universe. There’s not really much circle jerking to be had.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:15pm

          So you kick people that disagree with you outside of lighthearted and fluffy nonsense talk groups? Got it.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 6:23pm

          Did I say that? No? I didn’t think so.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 6:31pm

          I feel your anger. it gives you fffffffffffocus~

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:43pm

          It looks like you’re quoting something, but I don’t know what.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 6:54pm

          It seems you need everything explained to you.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:58pm

          It’s from a Children’s cartoon, isn’t it?

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 7:20pm

          Actually it’s from Revenge of the Sith but I don’t blame you for thinking it was written by a child.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 7:23pm

          IMO Episode 3 wasn’t that bad. People give 1 too much hate, but my personal worst is probably 2. : /

        • ULTRADJ

          01/09/2016 at 8:20pm

          @Topaz Only for the sole purpose on contacting the former admins of the forums to ask some questions. I knew they are probably hanging around the former members of the forums so I’ll reach them through there.

        • ULTRADJ

          01/09/2016 at 8:26pm

          @Gardeeian I don’t know who you are, and I could give to shits. But I will get in contact with the former admins, like it or not.

        • Bloodlord

          01/09/2016 at 9:11pm

          You are free to try. But its basically Thomas’s decision. BR wasn’t around and neithee was Tuor at the time. Besides Thomas was the web designer.

  • Gardeeian

    01/08/2016 at 5:41am

    Bloodlord, did you even read what I said. That goes for you as well Birdot. THIS site is completely controlled by screenwave media as apposed to THE FORUM WHICH IS OFFSITE which was controlled by Thomas. HENCE the admins and mods having no power HERE. Reading is important kids.

  • Birdofterror

    01/08/2016 at 4:15am

    Addendum: When I say mods, I mostly means ones that were active and around when this started getting really bad, not ones who were active when the forums were finally shut down. Talking about people who would perpetuate the flame wars instead of trying to control them.

    • Topaz

      01/08/2016 at 5:12am

      Believe it or not, some of those ex-mods actually cared for the forum and site at some point. Luka and Soth worked in conjunction with BR to bring life back to the forum. Their efforts wrestled control from the incompetent and absent Dave and gave it to BR who, at the time, had genuinely good ideas about making the site and forum great again. Instead of having to wait on Dave to make literally any change ever, the admin/mod team could actually get things done themselves. However, years of inaction from BR, Dave, Bleedman, and the rest of the content creators caused the forum to sink to its greatest low in history. Despite impassioned pleas from such people as Luka, Hiroko, and Tuor, people like Q.U. and BR chose to keep troublemakers like Haru, Otako, and Griddles on the forum, based on following arbitrary rules that they themselves created. After two years of watching the forum slowly crumble, some of the mod staff lost hope. Some sought to abandon the place completely, but still clung to desperate feelings of nostalgia and affection for the place. Some spent much of their formative years engaged in shitposting and flamewars with people they now consider to be closer than family. In retaining their modship, they grew bitter toward the forum, the site, and the community as a whole and they eventually abandoned the title of mod, set a few fires, and left completely. However, upon seeing people talk amicably about looking forward to a new comic project from a convicted pedophile, guilty of drawing pornography of underaged girls, writing a 669 paragraph pornographic fanfiction detailing graphic sex with a 12-year-old, and sharing lewd photos of his underaged sister with his friends, well… this ex-mod was not pleased. The fact remains that Griddles has yet to explain what happened, take responsibility, or even mention it for that matter. He says he wants to start over and become a new person, but it’s strange, then, that he’d go back to the two places where he has the fame and influence to take advantage of those younger and more impressionable than him; Snafu Comics and DeviantArt. This one ex-mod took it upon herself to call out the injustice of once again employing a convicted sex offender and letting him represent the site. If you cared one iota about Snafu Comics, you’d hate the fact that Griddles represents you. And then the forum was shut down. In the middle of the mayhem. With the flimsy excuse of Thomas being “sick of the forum.” And you know what? I am proud of it. That place survived far longer than it ever should have. Before my eyes, it became a hive of scum and villainy. The very place I longed to serve and protect had festered beyond my control. And yet I’m being blamed for its downfall. Don’t blame me. Blame people like Griddles. Blame people like BR for protecting people like Griddles.

      • Gardeeian

        01/08/2016 at 5:43am

        Preach it. This is the real truth.

      • Groverman62

        01/08/2016 at 2:37pm

        BR protects Grids because he is his friend and colleague.

        • Gardeeian

          01/08/2016 at 6:06pm

          Yeah we know how feelings can be misplaced.

      • numa430

        01/08/2016 at 6:28pm

        Grids was given a second chance for reasons and moved on from the past events.
        People like you and those who attacked him have no heart and passion what so ever to a friend and colleague of BR who is also happen to be my friend as well that hired me for a new project in line.

        Yet did you or anyone else care?
        No. No you didn’t and instead repeatedly attack him for no reason.
        People like you and Gardeeian is for a matter of a fact a selfish little immature prick.

        You should be a shame of you’re self for doing so in the beginning.

        • Topaz

          01/08/2016 at 6:45pm

          I have never once in my life been a shame of myself.

        • Gardeeian

          01/08/2016 at 7:22pm

          WOw. I hope they didn’t hire you as a writer.

      • BeeAre

        01/08/2016 at 6:49pm

        What was Griddles going to do on the forums that needed protecting from, Topaz? :\

        I am asking honestly: should I have SIMPLY banned him and cut off communication from him?

        He went to prison, and therefore hypothetically, he served his debt to society for his crimes.

        Do you think that punishment was not enough?

        I am not the Australian Government. I am not to arbitrate on behavior off the forums, not officially, am I?

        Would that not be an overreach of my power as an administrator?

        If you disagree, that’s fine. If you simply think that people like Griddles do not deserve forgiveness, and that I made a mistake in trying to let him have any, then I sincerely apologize. This is not snark, I really do understand that it might have just been outright a mistake on my part. That to some people, forgiveness is an unacceptable outcome. That I must have overlooked these people is an obvious an apparent mistake on my part, now.

        A big mistake.

        If that’s what you think: that I was “protecting” Griddles because I thought his having served a prison sentence meant he was already punished, and that by not banning him and removing him from the site entirely and in every way, I did not do enough…

        If that is how my actions are interpreted, then yes.

        I made a mistake.

        Sincerely, I apologize for this error. It seems to be academic now, with the forums shut down, but I want you to know that I’m sorry.

        I am sorry for my decisions. I did not realize they would lead to this.

        I returned to my home after a long trip over the holidays, not knowing any of this had transpired.

        I’m sick all the time, and have no energy to fight.

        This is not an argument, this is an apology. An admission, if you want.

        I did not think I should judge Griddles if his government already did.

        This was wrong of me.

        Again, I am not being sarcastic. I am not trying to avoid blame.

        I’m just sorry. I would have liked the forums to keep going, and it seems patiently too strange that they should end over this.

        But it seems like it’s my fault.

        I will continue to investigate, so I can get a clearer picture, but this seems to be pretty concise as an indictment of it being me who was wrong.

        Yes. I will continue to investigate. But for now:

        I’m sorry.

        • Lolwutpear_126

          01/08/2016 at 11:09pm

          This is utterly despicable! How could you protect such..such a MONSTER? I am disgusted at you, BR. I thought you were an OK guy, but after reading all of this… It makes me sick…

          Don’t you know that pedophilia usually isn’t cured by just a prison sentence? It’s a mental illness. I do not believe in recovery from something like that. You should have kept Griddles far away from this site. Especially since Bleed’s comics tend to attract a younger audience… WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING…

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 5:26am

          Pear, you’re a very hateful person, and that goes for everyone that shares your hateful and quite frankly stupid outlook. Griddles already served his capital punishment in prison, something your sheltered mind probably cannot even comprehend. He sinned, and paid for his sins. Do you think that he’s ever going to escape this? No, hell no. It’s going to follow him for the rest of his life, come up at every job interview, become in the back of the mind of everyone he knows, earn spiteful glares from people who find it easier to hate than they find it to forgive. Griddles has been nothing but kind to everyone on the forums, and you guys are just mean spirited and spiteful. Get a grip on reality, please.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 5:53am

          Birdot you really are an uninformed sucker. You really do belong here on this dying message board. Just don’t let your ignorance rule you, buddy.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 5:58am

          Like honestly. Step out of this website and do like 10 minutes of research and you’ll know much more than the bullshit you keep spouting.

        • Lolwutpear_126

          01/09/2016 at 11:58am

          @BirdofTerror: Oh yes, I remember you. Just as annoying as Gundam. So my outlook that sharing pictures of your underaged sister with your friends is dumb? That writing a pedo fanfic should just get accepted? That bein a pedophile is a-okay? Hm-hmm, yes, my mind is truly sheltered. I’m a hateful person? I just say what I think. And I think I got a lot of common sense in thinking that pedophiles should be kept as far away from children as possible. Prison sentence or not. Do you have children yourself, Bird? Or younger siblings? Would you trust them in such a person’s care? Maybe you would. I wouldn’t for the life of me. Keep on bashing me, if you wish. You think a little anon on the internet is going to make me change my mind? Think again. You’re just one more participant in this vile cesspool of a site.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 1:35pm

          Don’t waste your time, Pear. The tinfoil hat is too tight on Birdot’s head. Do you use tumblr?

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 4:57pm

          Of course she does. Dont you see these opinions, as well as those of yours yourself? Completely tumblr. Opinions of hate and destruction instead of love and creation. As cheesy as it sounds, people like you killed the forum, and people like you probably celebrate its death as well. It’s sad, really, you guys dont even hide your colors.

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 5:06pm

          Ah yes, the love and creation of sticking your dick in an underaged girl. What could be more wonderful than that?

        • Topaz

          01/09/2016 at 5:14pm

          Seriously, it’s almost as if you people WANT to be represented by a child molester. I ain’t gonna hold that against you. Whatever floats your boat, you get what I mean? If you like Bleedman’s comics, I see where you’re coming from. Loud and clear, Birdot. I get it. Have fun with Snafu as people like Griddles and Otako set fire to its already shitty reputation.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 5:26pm

          There’s something really wrong with how your mind works, Birdo. You have no proof yet slander any evidence. Your defence is “He’s nice.”

          You probably just hear things through the grapevine. You don’t seem to have the mental capacity to be objective and search for yourself. You’re pretty much a sheep. At least this is giving you something to do.

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:20pm

          Griddles was not representative of the forums or the people in it. That’s stupid to say, and you know it’s wrong. I’m aware of how he fucked his owns sister, but I also followed the case to its fruition. He did capital punishment and everything. You guys are not his judge and juror, and certainly not his executioner. Your constant self righteous truants certainly helped kill the site though. To say that anyone is utterly and completely beyond redemption is the single most ignorant thing any human being can say.

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 6:30pm

          “I’m aware of how he fucked his owns sister”

          “To say that anyone is utterly and completely beyond redemption is the single most ignorant thing any human being can say”

          I’m at a loss for words here quite frankly. I mean. I don’t need to say anything. You slit your own throat with that statement.

        • KKKronicMasturhater

          01/09/2016 at 6:30pm

          Griddles isn’t a representative of the forum? You backwards fucknugget THE FORUMS MAIN MASCOT BLEEDMAN IS AN OPEN PEDOPHILE WHO TAKES MORE EFFORT IN GIVING HIS WEABOO ARMY FANSERVICE.

          I DONT NEED TO BE SELF RIGHTEOUS TO CONDEMN SOMEONE RAPING A CHILD!

          DID YOUR LOGIC CRAWL OUT OF A BULLS ASS? CUZ ITS BULLSHIT!, YOU WOULD NOT WELCOME A MURDERER OR A RAPIST BACK INTO SOCIETY< THIS GUY CLEARLY DIDNT LEARN HIS LESSON UNTIL HE GOT CAUGHT AND WOULD HAVE MOST LIKELY CONINUED IF HE HADNT, PLEASE take a blunt butterknife and commit seppuku

        • KKKronicMasturhater

          01/09/2016 at 6:31pm

          Griddles isn’t a representative of the forum? You backwards fucknugget THE FORUMS MAIN MASCOT BLEEDMAN IS AN OPEN PEDOPHILE WHO TAKES MORE EFFORT IN GIVING HIS WEABOO ARMY FANSERVICE.

          I DONT NEED TO BE SELF RIGHTEOUS TO CONDEMN SOMEONE RAPING A CHILD!

        • KKKronicMasturhater

          01/09/2016 at 6:33pm

          “Anakin the jedi are evil”

          “From my point of view the jedi are evil”

          You’re a fucking moron birdot, madmen must travel for miles to be entertained by your ravings

        • Birdofterror

          01/09/2016 at 6:48pm

          I think you messed up the quote to say Jedi instead of Sith. Regardless, you don’t see me going on multi post tirades in bold caps trying to scream at someone on the internet about pedophilia. I tend to more important endeavors, like finding out why our forum we all shared suddenly died. It didn’t take a lot of work to figure out why, and it probably looked a lot like this.

        • BeeAre

          01/09/2016 at 7:35pm

          Sorry, Pear.

          I just didn’t think I’m as qualified to review legal cases like a judge. I still don’t, but that does not matter.

          My own moral judgments about his past decisions, which I know and agree with you were and are among the worst crimes conceived in the mind–I thought my morality should be affixed to being impartial; to trying to be as fair as I could be, being the site’s administrator.

          This was clearly a significantly bad oversight on my part, as you and many others keep pointing out.

          You, and most everyone here disagree that strongly, and are right that he should have not been allowed back on the board.

          I am sorry.

          If the forums do return, Griddles will not return to them.

        • Birdofterror

          01/10/2016 at 6:20am

          As much as it pains me, that is arguably the correct decision. Too many people care too much about their opinions on this subject, and trying to reach a reasonable compromise is impossible. Griddles makes a lot of people uncomfortable, and those of us who are aware of his actions, but choose not to demonize him about it are too few. Maybe one day, he will find himself on the right side of history, or come up with some kind of apology so powerful no one can help but forgive him! But today is not that day. If the forums come back, Griddles’ inclusion would be… unwise.

  • Birdofterror

    01/08/2016 at 1:58am

    Sadly? Thomas’s power is what led to the site being destroyed, and former MODS and their constant enforcement of drama and bullshit caused it. I dont even “blame” Thomas for the site dying, I blade the mods for either A: not doing their jobs, or B: perpetuating the exact kind of shitposting they’re supposed to be preventing as mods.

  • A.M. Gibert

    01/07/2016 at 4:03pm

    Is there no end to this immature child’s behavior? I feel like this has gone too far.

    • Groverman62

      01/07/2016 at 4:25pm

      Who? Otako or Blood Lord?

      • A.M. Gibert

        01/07/2016 at 5:25pm

        Otako, mainly. I just want this to be over.

        • Gardeeian

          01/07/2016 at 7:42pm

          It’s like you’re living on another planet or you don’t pay attention to anything.

        • A.M. Gibert

          01/08/2016 at 3:50pm

          Gardeeian, I wasn’t even there when it happened. So excuse me for not knowing what went down. -_-

  • athdlg

    01/07/2016 at 8:42am

    I’m not sure who exactly runs it or who ran it, but I know that Princess made the recent posts.

    • KKKronicMasturhater

      01/09/2016 at 5:37pm

      I run that shit with others nigga, you got some shit you wanna say ? Some idea you want up on that thing, you go to ME or PRINCESS

  • Groverman62

    01/07/2016 at 1:47am

    Im not Blood Lord. I have never been him. I am a completley different user.

    • Birdofterror

      01/07/2016 at 5:56am

      I believe Grover. If he was Blood Lord he would probably be goose stepping and spouting “I told you so’s” to everyone. He certainly would have the last laugh then.

      But please don’t pretend like this wasn’t partly your fault, Warbear. Hope you’re happy.

      • athdlg

        01/07/2016 at 8:21am

        I don’t think they like to be referred as “Warbear” anymore, only Luka.

      • Bloodlord

        01/07/2016 at 10:37am

        You clearly don’t know Bloodlord or anything that’s going on for that matter.

      • Luka

        01/07/2016 at 4:16pm

        Oh look, you’re still a moron.

        • Birdofterror

          01/08/2016 at 1:54am

          As someone, like you, who prides shitposting to the degree that you do, I’m not even kind of surprised that it ended up this way, Warbear. You cared far too much about your own flawed opinion that I wouldn’t be surprised if the core of this was all you. But to hear you call ME a moron is rich. Go ahead and celebrate your hollow victory. You got what you wanted: The forums are dead. When’s the “mission accomplished” party?

        • Gardeeian

          01/09/2016 at 5:59am

          When is your pity party?

  • Groverman62

    01/06/2016 at 11:54pm

    Can you give me a link?

    • Luka

      01/06/2016 at 11:54pm

      Can’t. Comments section is being moderated and all posts with links in them need moderator approval.

      • Luka

        01/06/2016 at 11:55pm

        lookbeyondthetsun . tumblr . com
        except without spaces

        • Groverman62

          01/07/2016 at 12:56am

          Looking at things right now, I have to say that you were being ass to Grids. People move on from their mistakes better when others are not constantly giving them grief about it.

  • Groverman62

    01/06/2016 at 11:50pm

    …What?

  • Groverman62

    01/06/2016 at 11:45pm

    Blood Lord? As in the same moderator for the forums?

  • athdlg

    01/06/2016 at 10:54pm

    It was probably deleted by a moderator.

    • Groverman62

      01/06/2016 at 11:06pm

      So can you tell me whats the issue with the forums is athdlg?

      • Groverman62

        01/06/2016 at 11:08pm

        Also I didnt know that the main site had moderators.

        • athdlg

          01/06/2016 at 11:21pm

          Someone is deleting the comments, like on Riley’s comic section, so I’m assuming there are moderators or at least the people in charge of the comic being updated can delete comments.
          The forums are shut down for good. Thomas is tired of trying to maintain the site and doesn’t care anymore.
          Around the exact same time, Luka had called Griddles out for what had happened in his past and Luka was put on probation (probably for completely derailing the topic). When people were questioning why Luka was put on probation, the site was officially shut down. It was most likely a coincidence, but it is rather suspicious that at the time the site was shut down, this drama occurred. Which is why some are skeptical if Griddles being called out was the final straw.

  • Chamrock

    01/05/2016 at 2:50am

    Dib could never get over her, could he?

  • Possessedmofo

    01/03/2016 at 4:57pm

    Jeez the A.I. suddenly became a shipper.
    And now for some (possibly) plot-advancing dialogue.

    • Ether101

      01/09/2016 at 7:29pm

      Let’s hope Tak’s comment hints at something.

  • 01/03/2016 at 6:30am

    I love this to bits! I agree with computer too… & hey… Hell is heaven with you in it.

  • Kissthethunder

    01/02/2016 at 3:22pm

    Lmfao! I love it. Happy New Year! This is a amazing page, Thanks for posting it! I can’t stop giggling. We all know that earth has gone to hell..

  • B0XofR0X

    01/02/2016 at 2:56pm

    OH MAN! I hope this computer stays with them forever!

  • 01/02/2016 at 11:22am

    So much for this being a simulation. Earth has really gone to hell.

    Hopefully we’ll get some exposition between Tak and the Tallest.

    • Lerianis

      01/03/2016 at 6:45am

      I’d like to know who the ‘others’ are that Tak is so worried about and thought that the Irkin Empire had exterminated.
      Maybe someone race even MORE bloodthirsty and warlike than the Irkens who had pushed them into a corner and then just gone ‘poof’ and vanished, with the Tallest taking credit for ‘exterminating’ them.

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